Azimuth Flat Overhaul Thrusters Update Notes(Update: July 7/19/2024): Fixed Slowdown factor code
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=>Set slowdown factor to 1, instead of 10. This might solve the thrusters pushing your ship down instead of up.
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I figured out what is wrong and I will patch it today soon.

Up is down on your thrusters. I have more than enough to push me up, but still, i go down.

ok I will take a look, but that issue is usually a planets or game bug.

The thrusters from the other pack (https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=472087570) are NOT affected. They work perfectly.

Yeah probably the slowmode factor needs to be adjusted, I think.

But I'm pretty sure I set those to be the same as Keen's.

Nope, reverse vs forward is seeing a substantial difference in acceleration.

Confirmed, it is not a thrust issue. It only effects down thrusters (that I can tell), here is a video of my testing: https://youtu.be/jg1kTr-ijbo
Sent you an invite if you want to debug.

Even while on the ground (wheels), with dampeners off, if I hit the up thrust it gets shoved into the ground . :( I have 6 double lengths lg on a 700k ship. Should be more than enough (I think).

I also have atmos on the same ship (turned off), I will try with those enabled, maybe some sort of math error because I have them? But I will experiment more in a few days when I get another change to play.

Your ship doesn't have enough engine power to lift up further than hover area,. But has enough to hover.
Weird I know but SE is weird sometimes.

Is there any reason thrust would be reversed? Like when you push up, it goes down... I am in atmo and am hovering fine... Thrust override does it as well... Happy to post a saved game.

Azimuth Flat Overhaul Thrusters Update Notes(Update: March 3/29/2021): Updated Script Code
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=>Fixed Duplicate entries caused by the Cyan Flames code, which I merged to another file during Xbox conversion overhaul.
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Using the different thrusters on the same build is also the only time i have run into the bug of going down when pressing spacebar, but i havent isolated that yet- it may have been weight related.

On a related note, i can hover with only 10 flat new (nose down at ~200k kg) and i slow down from 100m/s in about 1/3 of the time it takes to accelerate to that speed at that weight - in space or atmo. You might need to dedicate a day or two looking at the code. Other than that- great mods!

I apologize for the vague numbers but i am not in game at the moment.

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I have run into a problem where the long ramp and flat long thrusters refuse to play well with the flat new. I built a small grid salvage ship with with 22-ish flat new and about 10 of the long ramp as up thrust and it wouldn't lift off - weight ~37k kg. I added flat new and long ramps until i had over 45 up thrust engines of both types- still no lift. I removed the long ramps and now it lifts with just 30ish flat new thrusters. it will lift about 200k kg now. On another build the Flat long were also not playing well with the other types.

Azimuth Flat Overhaul Thrusters Update Notes(Update: January 1/14/2019): Mod Update:Script Update
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=>Added DarkMist's fix for the Recolorable Thrusters Script/Mod. Thank you! :D
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I think they are better, but not sure. Try them :)

How are they in comparison to the Tiered Armored thruster pack? cause if i can get them to do a better job than that pack ill gladly swap over to these lol

Yes :)

So, now they work in atmosphere the same way as in space without loosing efficiency or thrust?

Azimuth Flat Overhaul Thrusters Update Notes(Update: July 7/27/2018): Mod Update: Major Bug Fixes and Improvements Update
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=>Added a new script that allows you to set custom colors for the thruster flames.

=>All thrusters now also work on planets and atmospheres.
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Azimuth Flat Overhaul Thrusters Update Notes(Update: February 2/18/2018): Mod Update: GUI Icons Updated
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=>Combined the G-menu icons into one group.
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Are these Ion or Atmospheric? be prefect if they were planet thrusters

Why mode have blue flame, and red on picture?

They should work on planets. But never tested sadly. :(

Are these a different model for Ion thrusters and they lose efficiency in planetary atmospheres?

could the armor thruster be made a little bit bigger like a 3x1 i wold love to use both the 2x1 and 3x1 armor thrusters i just cant find any out there this is the only one thats a true 2x1 thruster if you no what i mean if i had the skill or know how i would model it my self but i dont have the time or skill to do so

hehe no problem, Azimuth in my opinion is TumbleTV's best work. :D

Amazing. I absolutely love these. Thanks for sharing the fruits of your skills with talentless hacks like me. :)

They are quite a bit better than vanilla, last I checked but who knows Keen could change the vanilla force magnitudes without saying. :)

Once Keen updates the stable branch with all the new features like the block grouping I will update them so they take up much less room in the g-menus. :D

Same with the azimuth complete mod pack, it looks phenomenal now that it isn't taking up a crap ton of space. :D

How much better then vanilla thrusters are these and what kinda thrusters are they?

Im having the same problem too

Well this issue I have only happens on planets. Moons no matter the size there is zero issue, lift is exactly how it should be.

Well... in that case I'll just blame Keen and their silly planets. I'll keep to asteroids. Thx for looking.

I checked the code and indeed they should be working everywhere- i.e planets and space, well at least what the code says but in-game could be a different story. :D

@Skullhunter™,

Try the Azimuth Complete Mod Pack, they have plenty of small ship thrusters that are smaller than these ones with many different colored flames. :D

@Freely,

That is strange, but then again everything about SE is "strange" lol

Large ships have always had trouble with taking off and staying off the ground, but to be perfectly sure I will check the thrusters code to see if they work everywhere on planets and in space. :D

-I had to repost cuz I misread your reply. :/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258211665265653173/BC27C7FA096347BC7A464273A064C1E1F8A00201/

^ Is my ship hovering. it has more than enough thrust to lift off.

Is anyone having issues with the large thruster trying to take off from planets?

Strange thing is:

Down (C key) = Ship goes Down
Up (spacebar) = Ship goes Down
Forward thrust is ok but only if you keep to the horizon. If you pitch up too much the ship goes down.

However doing nothing it hovers fine.

This only happens once landed.

Small ships are perfectly fine.

Nice Thrusters. Not sure if you have anything smaller, I want to make a Viper from Battlestar

@Pegas519,

I will certainly take a look because that cannot be good. :(

I used the slope thrusters instead and it is fine.

@SEModder4. First, awesome work. I know you have heard it before but I didn't say it :D
Second, I think there might be something off with the thruster ramp. If damages my hull, perhaps the flame damage is offset?

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! CYAN!!!!! EPICNES!!!!!!!

WOOOOO CYAN!!!!!! EPIC!!! Cant wait!!!!!!!

I can throw a cyan thruster in for ya. :D

A cyan flame? That would be cool. Any way, I've done a mod review for this and the air intake mod. I hope you enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdKdJciTlPY

I Dont care so much over a crammed G-menu, you can filter pretty good with the search box, just throw in a cyan flare ramp, please, im begging you. Pleeease.

Hmm, I will keep the flame color additioins to a minimum so they don't pack your g-menus. :)

since i really, Really, REALLY love these ramp thrusters, could there be anytime to spare to make a cyan flare standalone???

Hmm, I will add more flame colors, but it will take me awhile.
I am making more mods people abandoned for DX-11.