stealing is cowardly because its done anonymously. the idea that it requires or engenders bravery is a misconception born of security and civility.

uhhh so I'm using both this mod and become desensitized and I did get desensitized but I'm at 2700 kills and still no brave is there something I can do to get it?

Hey @Monkey same question here, u will receive Trait Brave + those traits will be removed?
Cowardly, Agoraphobic, Claustrophobic, Hemophobic, Pacifist
Those moded traits?Claustrophobic, Hemophobic, Pacifist
Because i don't see than in the game.

Hey @Monkey same question here, u will receive Trait Brave + those traits will be removed?
Cowardly, Agoraphobic, Claustrophobic, Hemophobic, Pacifist

@feenjaren Actually, that doesnt really make any sense, stealing is something that would require a lot of bravery to be willing to do

I just want to know how much the various traits affect the chance of becoming brave. I surpassed my worlds custom maximum kills (with cowardly) and I still have not got the brave trait, im working towards the desenssitized but I would just like to know just how much of it is a bug vs the cowardly trait interaction

@ feenjareen this makes no sense, stealing can be difficult and very risky, it might require high intelligence and lots of guts. Depending on the context. Dont confuse a concept of honor with bravery, and in every case context matters. ;)

↓↓↓ thieves are most generally the opposite of brave ↓↓↓

thief would also make sense to get a higher chance to get it

Hey! Thank you for your hard work! I was using become brave in build 41, now in build 42 it's not showing on the list, I have resubbed multiple times, reinstalled the game twice, still nothing (in mod menu and in sandbox settings).

William Wallace the g slayin them filthy English

gives me an error when 00:00 time hits

Monkey I laughed out LOUD when I clicked the B42 url on the 41 page and saw Braveheart omg i laughed hard

@Zoir

If they have it setup to where you get used to wearing armor overtime like how you natural become resistant to panic the longer your survive then i'd be fine as you eventually don't have to worry about it but, to my understanding, that isn't that case. Also when it comes to Muscle Strain, they have that tied to Weapon Skills and not Fitness and Strength which to me is just, WHAT?

SDgamer have you ever chopped firewood, or used hand tools, irl? You actually get muscle fatigue. Or wore a gasmask? It's really uncomfortable if you're not used to it. No, I think the features are great and you're sulking.

It has potential, however as of the current state, it's too buggy to enjoy or commit to develop any big mods for it.

Question for Monkey, do you actually like B42 so far? I'm seeing modders who are rather disappointed with B42 so far and have no interest in modding PZ again. To me personally, the Devs dropped the ball (muscle strain and discomfort are terrible mechanics) and it's very concerning to me

Hey so I became brave, and as expected it removed cowardly, however, it did not remove fearful and agoraphobic, both traits normally conflicting with brave. Is this a bug? intended feature?

So just to kind of clarify with the description, when you do become brave/desensitized, does it remove the traits like "Cowardly" and other traits that would give you a "Panicked" state?

veteran should have a chance of brave too, amazing mod though <3

That would be part of a different mod. Reach out on discord _mon.key if you want to commission anything.

Panic does not have to be minimal, but it should be at a level that allows you to sleep

guh, I'm not sure, it looks imbalanced on one hand, but it seems like Brave should remove agoraphobia or claustrophobia (only), otherwise there's no way to counter them. Would it be very hard to write a function if you Brave then the panic from agoraphobia/claustrophobia doesn't go above first level? ps don't change hemophobia or any other trait

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Yeah desensitised took a big nerf unfortunately.

Just so ya know, Desensitized is no longer 0 Panic.

It was nerfed in b42. Nothing major, but its 85% reduced panic now. Brave is 70% reduced panic and stress.

Also Desensitized has a draw back of increased chance of nightmares. Brave has a bonus of +10% zombie grapple defense.

@miguel yeh. You can use either or both. I set the desensitised min-max kills higher than the become brave min-max kills since it’s a very strong trait.

Miguel i just wanted to say the same thin haha

Hi, if I combine become desensitized and become brave. Like what is the difference? Brave is less panic and desensitized is 0 panic?

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@vsnegupal A lot of new players started playing this game since I made this and this will give them a better chance at finding it.

what's the point, just update the original mod

I was waiting for a mod like this to come out for b42, thanks :-)

生DarK死, one mod is Brave, the other is Desensitized.

this is a good idea. should be base game.

good job, but why 2 mods that do the same thing?. just asking not hating

Soon it will remove nervous, hemophobic, claustophobic, agoraphobic. Thanks for reminding.

did it delete Negative: Cowardly, Agoraphobic, Claustrophobic, Hemophobic, Pacifist these effects when you became one