Space Engineers

Space Engineers

Star Trek Module 9 - Shuttle Kit 1.5
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Typhon Plume 22. dec. 2024 kl. 22:52 
The grinder, aka salvage bug is a older problem with Toolcore itself. It's been there from the start, and one I think there still trying to lock down. Folks like me that tend to use tool core on a normal basis tend to avoid the grind function when possible till they officially note a fix has been done.
ATepidCupOfTea 5. dec. 2024 kl. 10:08 
@Zanick are you turning the Salvager off when not in use, or deactivating?
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 12. nov. 2024 kl. 1:44 
@Zanick This issue is driving me nuts; I've been through it all again and I can't replicate the problem. I filled up my entire shuttle, including the salvager, with components that the salvager harvested from a wreck. Then I docked with a normal large grid connector. The first thing that happened is that the connector immediately pulled all the components from the salvager but not the other parts of the shuttle. I could not move components from the connector back into the salvager; I'm not sure why but it just wouldn't. But moving them the other way wasn't a problem. I could also move components between all the cargo spaces on the shuttle and the connector and back again. I can also move components between the shuttle cargo spaces and the shuttle salvager, although once again they get shunted straight out back to where they came from.

I am baffled...
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 10. nov. 2024 kl. 1:30 
@Zanick Yeah, I am aware users are having this issue. It's frustrated me endlessly because I can't work out what's causing it.
Sebastian Rowelle 9. nov. 2024 kl. 20:36 
@Zanick dude, check the chatlog, a lot of us are having that problem but, Quarannia hasn't been able to replicate it in her own worlds to figure out what the problem is, but they're working on it.
Zanick 9. nov. 2024 kl. 19:04 
does the salvager not connect to a base through the docking clamp? I connected the shuttle to a base and stone got pulled out of the drill but i cant get any salvage out of the ship.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 7. nov. 2024 kl. 2:17 
@Zanick No, the default blocks have connectors built in to conveyor stuff around. I have heard of users who have trouble moving stuff out of the salvager module but I haven't been able to replicate it so I can't fix any potential issue there.

If you add extra blocks in then there are the four small conveyor ports inside; that would be the only time you need to manually set up conveyoring.
Zanick 6. nov. 2024 kl. 21:06 
Does any of the default features of the shuttle need to be piped together behind the co-pilot seat to work properly?
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 24. aug. 2024 kl. 7:39 
@jivaii Trust me, you're not the only one who doesn't get why these things are the way they are. I remember having endless issues with sequencing weapons in WeaponCore and constantly being told by the WC devs that everything was working as intended. After weeks of trying, in desperation one day I stripped all the weapons off the ship and put new ones on. Bam, it worked! Did the same on all my grids and they worked as well. Why? Who knows; I certainly don't.

But I do feel your pain.
jivaii 23. aug. 2024 kl. 15:35 
I don't get it. Started up another save with the same mods, no problem.
jivaii 23. aug. 2024 kl. 14:22 
There was no change. still having the issue in offline SP.
jivaii 23. aug. 2024 kl. 14:18 
Playing on co-op, with all 15 modules, Build Info/Build Vision, Star Trek Respawn ships, Star Trek Encounters 2.6, nanobot build and repair, and aww scrap. Included are their dependencies

I'm going to try it on SP now and see if that changes anything.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 23. aug. 2024 kl. 14:15 
@jivaii Well I haven't personally experienced this but I will go and test it once more under survival conditions to see if anything odd crops up. The only thing I can't do at the moment is test it on a server so if ToolCore or anything else is acting weirdly on a server I can't really do much about it.
jivaii 23. aug. 2024 kl. 14:12 
I can confirm that I also have the issue of being unable to transfer stuff from the salvager into anything other then the drill, and likewise from the drill elsewhere. The drill will still empty into other inventories though.

It also didn't stop when I deactivated it when it was full and just leaving scrap about.
ATepidCupOfTea 3. aug. 2024 kl. 2:52 
Yeah I suspect thats the case. Thanks for the help anyway
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 2. aug. 2024 kl. 6:19 
@ATepidCupOfTea I can't say for sure but I suspect it's something server side that's causing a weird side effect that I can't reproduce. Maybe another mod or script conflicting with ToolCore and how it uses the Sorter block type; I really don't know.
ATepidCupOfTea 1. aug. 2024 kl. 15:51 
Okay, done some further testing. It seems to allow item transfer initially, but then stops after using the salvage beam to scrap some blocks. Weirdly I can move items from the salvager to the drill, but not into any other cargo.
ATepidCupOfTea 1. aug. 2024 kl. 8:55 
Thanks for the reply! Giving it another go today, I think it might be an issue with the server tbh but I will let you know what I find
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 1. aug. 2024 kl. 2:03 
@ATepidCupOfTea Not sure why it isn't working for you to be honest. I just loaded up a survival world and took my shuttle and went and ground down an old grid. After filling up all the cargo spaces (cargo, connector, salvager and both cockpits) I docked and was able to transfer all the salvaged components from the shuttle to the large grid's cargo hold.

So it definitely works under at least that set of conditions. The trick now is to identify if there's something unique about your build or set of conditions that is stopping components moving between the salvager and other blocks.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 1. aug. 2024 kl. 1:31 
@ATepidCupOfTea Hmmmm, I'll have to check this out. I've not had any issues transferring items up to now. The Salvager is (supposed to be) connected by a built in conveyor.
ATepidCupOfTea 31. juli 2024 kl. 16:23 
Hi. Love the shuttle kit, but I am having issues transferring items from the Salvager. Is there any external access, or have I missed a part that provided conveyors?
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 25. juni 2024 kl. 15:26 
@Anervouslhasaapso Thank you so much. Maybe I'll be inspired some day to build another one like the Danube; I do like it, along with the Delta Flyer.
Anervouslhasaapso 25. juni 2024 kl. 13:54 
I absolutely love this thing, kinda wish there were a Danube and a type 6 variant
amazing work Qarannia, thank you for all these wonderful mods
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 8. juni 2024 kl. 5:46 
@B.R. NortherlyRose Lol, yeah I know, but I also know that it can be a bit annoying when things change too many times, forcing one to re-do work one has already done. But no more changes for the foreseeable future; I'm working on other things now.
B.R. NortherlyRose 2. juni 2024 kl. 17:03 
@Qarannia ah that was a just reference, its not like i had to build a battlestar by hand or something
MK84 2. juni 2024 kl. 12:13 
Do you have a link to the SketchUp model?
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 2. juni 2024 kl. 6:26 
@[ST-R] Solutech [ST] Oof; as long as the damage was contained. Situations like this aren't ideal so I try to only do them when absolutely necessary. Murphy's Law that three such situations all happened with the shuttle so soon after one another.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 2. juni 2024 kl. 6:24 
@B.R. NortherlyRose Promise this is the last time. Unless Keen breaks something again.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 2. juni 2024 kl. 6:24 
@MK84 No I didn't. My area of expertise lies in the modding arena. It was a free to use with attribution off of SketchUp.
MK84 2. juni 2024 kl. 5:59 
Cool Type 9 shuttle. Did you model it?
B.R. NortherlyRose 25. maj 2024 kl. 1:39 
We can rebuild...
[ST-R] Solutech [ST] 25. maj 2024 kl. 1:37 
lol well that explains why my entire starship was shaking itself to death ..... Oh well no harm done just 3 trashed shuttles :D
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 23. maj 2024 kl. 15:02 
@[ST-R] Solutech [ST] Good news! I have spoken to my shuttle engineers and they have agreed to open some more internal space in the Type 9. So now you'll be able to wedge in your ore detector and more besides. No word on how many extra blocks, but they've promised me a minimum of 13, maybe more.

As punishment however, they have explained that everyone will have to rebuild the back half of their shuttles (again). This is the price we pay for progress. :steammocking: Coming soon!
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 22. maj 2024 kl. 5:04 
@[ST-R] Solutech [ST] I'd have to change one of the block types / add a new variant. It wasn't designed for adding a great many blocks; I figured 13 would be enough. You can get creative with some of them though, like the shield emitter. You might be able to squeeze that in at the bottom below the bottom row of blocks since it's only a half block high.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 22. maj 2024 kl. 5:02 
@Sebastian Rowelle @mac124568 I built one today in survival mode for a change instead of just spawning one in. All the conveyored blocks were correctly connected once everything was welded up; I use BuildInfo's built in conveyor checker to see. If you use BI you can look at the grid and type in chat /BI CN to toggle this. Anything not connected shows up in red.

I mined a full load of ore; filled up every space except the grinder which won't take ore by default (though you can manually move ore in there) and then dropped it off at a large grid connector. Had no problems moving all the ore to the large grid cargo hold.

Then salvaged a random ship I spawned in from a BP. Grinder put all the components in every space it could find on the shuttle (except the drill, see above). Again, dropped all the components off at the large grid connector and stuffed them all in the large grid cargo no problem.
[ST-R] Solutech [ST] 21. maj 2024 kl. 1:12 
Having a ton of fun with these modules . Any chance you can slip an ore detector into the build somehow. Managed to get shielding and ai blocks in the cargo compartment but space is at a premium in there lol .
mac124568 20. maj 2024 kl. 15:42 
I had the same issue for a while if you remember. Left it alone since i thought you updated it. Only difference was it happened to the Docking port for me. My best guess is the game doesn't load the parts correctly on rare occasions.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 20. maj 2024 kl. 13:12 
@Sebastian Rowelle I'm still trying to understand what causes that to happen; only had two reports on it so far and haven't been able to replicate it myself. So far for me everything connects and I can transfer stuff between all the containers. I will keep looking for answers.
Sebastian Rowelle 19. maj 2024 kl. 21:22 
just came across an issue... the Salvager and Drill units do not seem to be connected to the rest of the ship, as far as transferring cargo is concerned. they load up with ore and components, but there's nothing i can do to actually remove them from the ship afterwords as they dont connect to the Docking port. still love it, just trying to be helpful.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 18. maj 2024 kl. 13:55 
@Sebastian Rowelle Having learned the trick from my Viper Kit I made sure to include room for the Defense Shield blocks. Can't have a Star Trek ship without shields. :steamhappy:
Sebastian Rowelle 18. maj 2024 kl. 13:10 
i love this. the only thing it doesn't have that i wish it did is Defense Shields, but there's enough room to add them yourself without compromising it's appearance. plus the Type 9 is my favorite Star Trek shuttlecraft, so i'm doubly happy that you did this one first. many thanks and applause for such great content.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 18. maj 2024 kl. 9:24 
@Federation Cosmic-Bolt Well I have a ready-made Peregrine in Module 7 so who knows.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 18. maj 2024 kl. 9:24 
@B.R. NortherlyRose Thank you for the kind words. People don't realise sometimes the effect their words can have, for good or bad. Most of us didn't get into modding because we were looking for praise, but I won't lie, it helps motivate us when we know there are people who like what we build. Enjoy the mods. :steamhappy:
B.R. NortherlyRose 18. maj 2024 kl. 7:59 
@Qarannia you're welcome man, your stuf is amazing, your mods are pivotal in all my builds, so I'm pretty sure you did a really nice job
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 18. maj 2024 kl. 7:32 
@B.R. NortherlyRose Thanks; it certainly takes a bit of fiddling to overcome some of the games restraints but it works pretty well overall so I'm happy.
Qarannia  [ophavsmand] 18. maj 2024 kl. 7:31 
@Kirito Pretty sure a survival kit is too big. The space for extra blocks is only 1 block wide. Even if you had a modded survival kit that would fit I doubt you could actually access the panel to recharge and it also wouldn't be conveyored.

I suppose you could stock it up with lots of bottles and stuff and maybe use it as a respawn ship then but it certainly wasn't designed as such.
B.R. NortherlyRose 18. maj 2024 kl. 5:01 
as long as it fits in the space we have it *should*, unless it needs a conveyor connection, I dont rember if it does or doesn't, as I havent touched the block in while, lol
Kirito 18. maj 2024 kl. 3:37 
One question: can you also build a survival kit and use it as a respawn ship?
Federation Cosmic-Bolt 15. maj 2024 kl. 20:28 
legit, honestly would love to see the Peregrine Fighter be done like this