Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

Ancient City Names
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Rex Invictus 28. nov. 2018 kl. 1:50 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Melgunov

Perhaps the developers admired him :D @Thomahawk2k
Piero 18. mar. 2018 kl. 7:48 
Hello, could you please update your mod to work with the latest patch? Thank you
Hori 5. jan. 2018 kl. 11:38 
And yeah, Stanwick. Eborakon is already on the map so it's better to rename Stanwick to Rigodunum. It's a fort/colony that was never discovered but likely stood somewhere around that area.
Hori 10. nov. 2017 kl. 16:41 
Also Pelplin = Mentonomon according to Pytheas of Massalia.
Hori 17. okt. 2017 kl. 13:02 
Creative Assembly's 'Melgunov' is not even a settlement, it's a bloody burial mound near modern Ukrainian city of Kropyvnytskyi. Melgunov is the surname of a Russian guy who excavated it. In Russian it's called 'Мельгуновский курган' ('the barrow of Melgunov') and in Ukrainian 'литий курган' ('the casting barrow') or 'лита могила' ('the grave of the castings'). This reminds me of Civilization VI where Scythian settlements bear modern archaeological names like 'Pokrovka'.
Bob 29. feb. 2016 kl. 6:02 
Melgunov was caled Litoi
Piero 21. feb. 2016 kl. 14:48 
It seems you replacing "Pelplin" with Gothiscanza hit the mark. CA copied your decision and included in Total War: Attila the same settlement under the much better name you came up with!
HADRIANVS66 21. feb. 2016 kl. 1:47 
Sleaford... Lindum (Britannia)
Ibossim... Ebussus (Hispania)

The others names, I think are allright (sorry about my "poor english")
HADRIANVS66 21. feb. 2016 kl. 1:36 
Vesontio... ¿Besançon? (France)
Piero 14. feb. 2016 kl. 9:25 
Thank you. Those Anglo-Saxon placenames in 40-BC-Britain made me suffer. Plus, Vanilla also calls Mediolanum "Mediolanium", with a spare "i". Will you fix it, too?
Bob 25. juli 2015 kl. 7:59 
Melgunov was also called Litoi and was a kurgan (ancient burial site) in Scythia
Berru 11. feb. 2015 kl. 10:14 
Punic languadge didn't disappear from Africa until the 5th century AD, but most likely it did from Eivissa.
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 11. feb. 2015 kl. 10:07 
I know, but by this time period the punic culture is almost gone....
Berru 11. feb. 2015 kl. 9:55 
Ibossim isn't wrong, it's just punic language
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 31. dec. 2014 kl. 8:17 
No, Anglo Saxon names are from early medieval times. We don't know the celtic names of those cities.
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 17. nov. 2014 kl. 21:55 
Eborakon is thought to be the celtic name of Eburocum.
Brozilla 17. nov. 2014 kl. 16:58 
Shouldn't Eborakon be Eburacum (York)?
Falcor 14. okt. 2014 kl. 8:29 
No worries, A Grammar of Ancient Geography is kind of hard to understand. It may not cover Roman names except what they held. Yet it uses Latin geographical names. So I'll see if something like it exists that's newer. It is limited to Western knowledge of the time. The descriptions are based on older texts, so it relates where something is by rivers and seas in the vague way of ancient texts. It presumes you are familiar with the terms used. &c is used instead of etc. At this time & also meant 'et, per ,and'. It is full of antiquated things, it was published for universities of the time. Something like this that focuses on a smaller time would be easier.
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 14. okt. 2014 kl. 8:13 
I'll update when I have time
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 14. okt. 2014 kl. 8:11 
Great, thanks again.
Falcor 14. okt. 2014 kl. 1:25 
The type face isn't perfect nor are all the scans. It also covers the names each civilisation called cities.
For the parts in Latin and Greek, footnotes. Translated versions are here and it is also a good source. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/
Falcor 14. okt. 2014 kl. 1:05 
yw
Those are my go to research tools. Most wiki citations are books only available there or Oxford Uni press books that are super exspensive which are sometimes in the new books.
My Archive suggestion is "A Grammar of Ancient Geography" It is from the late 1800's and British, and cannot be text formated, like copied for pasting, so it is dry and you'll have to do the Greek words manually to search elsewhere. However it is very thorough. You can read online or download the PDF, some books you go through to google books for the free download, some are on the site. If you have an ebook reader those are all available file types.
This is public domain, so researchers shouldn't hoard these links. I hope other Mod researchers see these tips. You can get all the Men at arms series on ebook3000 for unit research, for any TW game.
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 13. okt. 2014 kl. 22:44 
Thanks for the tip, Falcor, also for the good links
Falcor 13. okt. 2014 kl. 14:07 
Okay, I know a place to look, but I'll get back with results. If you want to try too, look on wikipedia and listed books cited, in a suitable article, then look up the book at Archive.org , if it is a newer book look at EBook3000.com For good maps that may list the city.. or not, check here. MAPS [www.worldhistorymaps.info]
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 8. okt. 2014 kl. 9:41 
Yes, but it is owned by Romans, and by this time they renamed it to Ibossim
Joaz 8. okt. 2014 kl. 8:23 
I know for sure Ibossim was an actual phoenician name so they were correct there
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 6. okt. 2014 kl. 22:40 
Thanks Falcor,

Thanks tatvist for your help, however the city we are looking for lies in modern day ukraine
brywav 6. okt. 2014 kl. 15:25 
Melgunov is a Iranian city, in the North of Iran. Babol was the Latin name, so perhaps Babol is the conversion for Melgunov.
Falcor 6. okt. 2014 kl. 14:45 
It uses archaic archaeological terminalogy, being from 1882, so keep that in mind if you aren't familiar with a group being called by the name used therein.
Falcor 6. okt. 2014 kl. 14:34 
This is covering coins and symbols and possible ancient language connections. It does however list many old names of seetlements and alternate names you could research to find the period and it might lead to some of the names you're looking for or other sites.
Book online with option to download.
https://archive.org/stream/earlyhistorymed00clargoog#page/n6/mode/2up
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 5. okt. 2014 kl. 9:41 
@Teddy Westside Thanks, really useful
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 5. okt. 2014 kl. 9:40 
@Neusaap77 Jij hebt ook een coole naam :)
Dwersinator 5. okt. 2014 kl. 4:46 
coole naam Neusaap
Aress 5. okt. 2014 kl. 0:47 
nice job thanks, I agree with you this is a game of ancient times and empires, so the city names must be correct
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 4. okt. 2014 kl. 13:41 
Thanks for the info, I'll update soon
Ermanarich 4. okt. 2014 kl. 5:26 
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The only settlement I couldn't find anything about is Melgunov :/ there seems to be really nothing; One option would be to use the name of the capital of the Budini in grand campaign, Tur. But there are also no other informations about this settlement.
Ermanarich 4. okt. 2014 kl. 5:26 
Hey, I've just found an amazing source with ancient city names (I just can't say how historical this is, but it seems very interesting):
http://www.bergbook.com/images/21229-01.jpg

There is for example a settlement called Scurg(i?)um in the area of the Gutones. Ascaucalis is also there, but further in the west.

Arsicua (or Arsicva?) seems to be the capital of the Arii (the tribe was called Harii in reality, that's also a little mistake)

Setvia (or Setuia?) for the Naharnavali (so, instead for Oblin)

Asanca or Arsenium (Arsonium?) for the Buri

In my opinion, the v instead of the u sounds a bit more barbarian, but whatever you want...

^^ I have tto say sorry, I used the map of a book and searched it then in the internet; The names at this page are a bit different (the map is not as exact as mine) but also better to read than mine.


Vincente Steele 2. okt. 2014 kl. 11:55 
Subbed. While I don't seek historical accuracy, I do seek imersion, which having historically accurate city names provides. Thanks!
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 1. okt. 2014 kl. 22:48 
BTW, if you don't care about historical accuracy, why would you play total war at all?
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 1. okt. 2014 kl. 22:46 
@Mori The Vampire Lord
If you feel that way, it's ok, but just don't download the mod then and don't complain.
krconway 1. okt. 2014 kl. 20:36 
Read a book other than a vampire novel geared toward pre-teen girls and you may possibly understand why this would trouble those of us who care to play a Roman themed Total War game and not a game full of half historical guesses with a Roman or two thrown in for the sake of the title and sales, Vampire Lord.
Mori The Vampire Lord 1. okt. 2014 kl. 20:18 
your worried about stupid names and NO ONE will update ANY hero one manner mods for ee?? wtf thanks for the effort i suppose
monti 1. okt. 2014 kl. 16:29 
@Deathbringer Pulpudeva is the Thracian pronundiation of Philipoupolis, and since it starts under their control it's not all that inaccurate.
monti 1. okt. 2014 kl. 16:28 
Thank you - Stanwick and Sleaford threw me for a loop when I saw them.
Thomahawk2k  [ophavsmand] 1. okt. 2014 kl. 9:34 
@DeathBringer and Ermanarich
Thanks for your ideas, I'll be working on it.
DeathBringer 1. okt. 2014 kl. 9:20 
Pulpudeva is Philipoupolis
Ermanarich 1. okt. 2014 kl. 8:55 
Thank you very much for this!!! I already recognized this strange names, thanks for changing them!

Just my few cents to some of the names:
Gothiscandza was the name of the eastern prussian coast. But it's as far I know the only known name in this area, so its propably the best choice. In grand campaign, CA called the gothic capital Ascaucalis, but I never heard that name before.

In Vindelicia is another known settlement name, Damasia (but its not the ancient Kelheim, so maybe Alcimoennis is better)

And to Melgunov I have no idea... :(

And there are still other cities with bad names, such as:
Grinev
Oblin (both cities are in the northeast, no ideas for names...)
Singidun (Singidunum would be a better name; But I'm not sure if the celts called it Singidun...)
Merv (maybe, if it is not too long: Alexandreia Margiana)
Ibossim (Baleares, a better name would be Ebesus, or, if the city would be on Mallorca, Palma)

Just some ideas, if you plan to expand it :)
Cataph 1. okt. 2014 kl. 2:59 
Totally agree and I know other people who will be happy with this. Kelheim. Seriously.