Any chance for a version without Mannfred in Nagashizar? Or move him back to Sylvania? This would make it compatible with the Nagash mod.

All the other moves are great!

@Gr8Sc0tt

No, Festus isn't moved by this mod.

Was Festus moved?

I am indeed as I have some other mods like OVN factions playing, apologies and thanks for the response. I have only recently come back to the game after a hiatus and they seemed to work fine before, except the whole Mannfred thing.

I should have also read the thread before moaning first as see now it was mentioned previously.


I do love the mod however much prefer the changes.

@Kempy191 are you playing with Mixu's Unlocker? Its a known compatibility issue in the description that this can break Mannfred, Malus, and Balthazar's starting positions.

As for the Manfred AI, this is also a known issue, I've tried a few things to force him to be more active but I think it is something that has to do with his personality AI around Nagashizzar itself

Aldo tried a malakith campaign tonight and Mallus darkblade started outside blackrock even though daniel owned it so lost most his force trekking accross the map to attack the norscans.

So something is up with their start positions.

Don't know if this has been noted before, I tend to play imrik campaign, got addicted when you guys moved him to dragon isles but often still play, also dwarf thogrim campaign.

I've noted that since a few patches ago manfredd seems to do nothing, his initial army loses to clan carrion and then his faction just sit the entire game passively in Nagashizzar.

I've even tried giving him the bay settlement thinking it might draw him out with Imrik.

Not sure what's changed, when Imrik was in the dragon isles he was fairly active and would expand and declare war on me.

Also tried a player campaign with him and if you do he still starts in the southlands and you have to trek up to Nagashizzar taking a lot of damage due to passing through others lands unless you stop to attack each faction.

Need a update after 6.3

Numas being its own province is done by Mixu's unlocker

Does this mod alter province distribution? Currently, I'm playing as the Settra faction, and the Land of the Dead has been split into two parts. Even without loading your mod, I couldn't resolve this issue. I'm wondering if it's caused by this mod and considering reinstalling the game to fix it

Lmao, I wish you would think that moving Grom to the South absolutely destroy Lyonesse campaign. It's my first Bretonnia attempts and it's absolutely unbearable, Grom is strength rank 2, has 4 stack with full Waaagh and he declares war on you by turn 10-15 even if you are near his territory that much.

I played and it seems that the issue is gone in my playthrough

@Swissbob has that weird issue been fixed?

Yes I have Mixu's, I guess that must be it. My bad for not testing this mod without it, thanks though, still love what this mod does to keep regions distinct!

@Hyragon Do you have Mixu's Unlocker? I've recently discovered this weird issue when playing with it (Balthazar and Malus also seem to be effected, but no other playable lords I've noticed)

Maybe its an SFO issue, but I seem to find Mannfred gets Nagashizzar but his army is still in Ka Sabar

I find Ghorst overwhelms the ogres

Makes sense, thanks for the response :)

@gongoozler I haven't tried that mod myself, but I don't think ti should. I personally play with a different mod that moves Yuan Bo back to Cathay that works just fine.

@SteelBlood Good suggestions, I may move Khatep at least, although will probably wait until the next round of DLC is released before the next pass of changes

Will it conflict with YuanBo's To the West mod?

Also Khatep, who's lore specifically states he stayed near the borders of TK in exile, helping defend them. Honestly his start posistion is one of the worst decisions. There's a number of other locations that work much better for him lorewise, and as good or better gameplay wise. Could switch him with the Skaven near Ekrund (which is around where the TK owned at their height of power), put him near the Chaos Dwarfs to the east, or south near Kroq-Gar, Wurrzag, and Teclis. His in game default climates work best North or East, being orange in the south.

Thank you very much for this mod, it makes many lords feel so much better, gameplay and lorewise. There are 2 however I feel are overlooked if you would consider them: Ghorst, who's placement makes no sense lorewise, could be swapped with the greenskins in the Forest of Gloom (near Akendorf), makes a lot more sense for him to be representing Mannfred's interest near the empire while Mannfred is away, and it always seems like Vlad gets wiped out. Another option is Gristle Valley, next to the WE. His climate works in both areas.

Uploaded a version without the Gelt changes here:
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3496309389

@Malarraenaepcaleac'h I don't have plans to reverse the Balthazar changes for now unless other lords are added/moved. It is done for requests of lore reasons and to help Empire secure their own lands, but if you want to DM me I can send you a custom version with that change alone edited out, it is simple enough to do so.

Is it possible to somehow remove Balthazar from this mod? They did a good job with the moving imo, it's boring to put him back to Empire.

great work brother! since you have mentioned skrag and golg i would like to make a request. switch golg and skrag. why? skrag in matorca has access to that nearby gorger building. maybe put him in the area if matorca is boring. i want golg on the north end of the mountains because im pretty sure he has a monument built for him around there. in lore not in game, though im not sure. either way i like the changes and appreciate the effort either way! ive noticed that skrag holds out a lot longer against grimgor so the change was def effective. id say he could prob beat him with a little guidance.

Nice! Thanks!

(Much belated) Update for Omens of Destruction: I took recommendations to move Golgfag to Border Princes (Skrag's old start) as befitting his lore. I also had to move Taurox given that CA moved Wurrzag to where I had Taurox, so Taurox is now leading a beastmen incursion of Khuresh into Cathay.

If you have any suggestions for either moving Skulltaker or Arbaal, let me know, but for now I kept them where CA has them

That's a common problem with this mod. It once took me until turn 40+ as Imrik to take that first settlement because I had to fight through so many undead and chaos dwarfs to get there and a sea invasion wasn't something I wanted to do.

Unfortunately there's nothing you can do about it other than putting some serious effort in and having some patience.

Epidemius with the Tallymen of Nurgle has a new starting position, but none of the objectives make any sense, since destroying Kislev among others are on the other side of the world, as is the first capture objective. Might need to change that.

If ChaosRobie literally "stretches" the southern chaos wastes (the two poles are supposed to cover the entire planet), it would be great to setup the start position of all daemon factions. The only one who makes sense, that is N'Kari, the others are placed in random spots. Daemons and generic beastmen, their place is in the wastes, then, the author can update this mod. It still works, that's the advantage of scripts, but there's literally no place for Skulltaker, the poor fella... I guess you can cram him in Infernius or something

@cameronwhite880
And for Skulltaker to be in one of the wastes... or really just anywhere other than Lustria.

Please update for OoD. Would be great if Golgfag start position was moved to the Border Princes (Skrag's base game start).

Have you considered doing a sub-mod for IEE mod?

Needs updating 😁

Sadly no longer working with latest Patches

I play alot with dawi factions and imrik seem to be getting an issue where manfred ai just sits in naggashizar and does not do much just recruits lots of lords and does not expand.

This mod seems to break vampire corruption in the latest patch - Playing vlad and every vamp on the map seems to die of attrition. Disabling it brings it back. Unsure if its a mod conflict though or purely this.

Damn, moving Gelt back to the Empire is kind of disappointing since having him on a diplomatic mission to Cathay alongside his dragon bro was the best free change in ToD imo.

Just found this mod, but nice mod so far, should throw the Lokhir over in his Dark Elf Home land ;)

>Hi, thanks for perfect mod, but question: what about move White Dwarf back to old world?
I'd love that - Makes the northern new world feel a little less friggen cramped.

Hi, thanks for perfect mod, but question: what about move White Dwarf back to old world?

Does this work with SFO? My lords aren't moving and im using SFO.

There is problem with Manfred, poor guy is sitting near village spamming new lords and doing nothing : (

@It'sPaperBagMan I'd recommend Porkenstein's mod for this https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3030013389

@ilaias I'll look into this

@Manpersal No plans currently, but I'll see as they keep updating IE

This is great. Do you plan to move Teclis? I think he'd be great in his old Vortex start position, wth Rakarth moving to Tehenhauin's and Tehenhauin going to Caverns of Sotek or Sotek's trail where he can kill lots of skaven. Maybe bring Kroq-gar to Lustria.

I like having Gelt close to home, the problem is that he functions as a "rebel province" like Marienburg. You can't confederate him, so the only way to control the Empire as a whole is to have a military alliance with him or kill him. I think he's best away from the Empire, unless you can solve the problem I mentioned earlier.

can i ask that yuan bo get moved back to cathay

Bring Gelt home to the empire!! I approve!

wow kina really interested and cool SP. why CA didnt do it - only gods knows