Here to give an update as promised. Played Festus campaign, had a few vassals from different cultures and got quite a lot of negative diplomacy penalties from other factions because of that.

I really would love to see this fixed, since I like to have vassals, but having everyone hate me because of it sucks.

Added this to my ongoing campaign and played for a while. It does not seem to work, or at least I'm still having trouble with allies and vassals who do not like me giving regions to my vassals. But can't say for sure if those penalties are from the time before adding this mod or not, and I have over 120 mods in use, some of which do affect diplomacy. If I remember, I will report back here when I start a new campaign where I have vassals as well, if this works or not :)

Hello, still receiving penalties for having vassals

First time using this, but it's not changing the diplomatic penalties

Can you update please?

This and the vassals spread corruption mod really need to be added to the vanilla game itself. Sure, you can vassalize anyone as chaos, but diplomatically vassalizing any Norscan becomes impossible if you so much as think about turning Boris to the truth.

Great, no need to say much

Sir can you update pleaseeeeeee TvT

Обновите пожалуйста. Мод не работает.

For me, after 6.04 it does not work correctly. Can you update please?

this still working or not. the game has been crashing if I click too much in the diplomacy menu and I'm trying to figure out the cause.

i see, thank for your response

It should fix the problem about factions hating you for having the wrong vassals. I don't know how it will interact with transferring cities.

i have question, i often want to play with hgith and dark elf vassal with wood elf (using the mod using all diplomatic options, vassalise,liberate confederate) and i was wondering, do your mod solve the problem i often have, they hate me for having the other as vassal or transfering city i got from Fudging Vassals to another

Updated for 5.1, no changes

Thx for the update SundayNebula

This mod still works as long as you add it before subjugating anyone.

There will be a small past treaty penalty, but the ongoing diplomatic penalty will be gone.

Update?

For some reason doesn't work for me. Tried with and without fudging vassals, at the beginning and in the end of mod list. Is it really save competable?

不再工作，不再生效，希望更新

Tried Prop Joe's WH3 Mod Manager. Works now.

So I've tried with and without fudging vassals but this doesn't seem to work.

Hi, getting errors with your mode. Can you look at it please?
[string "script\campaign\mod\improve_relations_with_vassals.lua"]:8: in function 'stop_vassal_breakage'
[string "script\campaign\mod\improve_relations_with_vassals.lua"]:25: in function 'callback'
[string "script\_lib\lib_core.lua"]:1908: in function 'stop_vassal_breakage'
[string "script\campaign\mod\improve_relations_with_vassals.lua"]:16: in function <[string "script\campaign\mod\improve_relations_with_vassals.lua"]:15>

Nice. Thank you it is nicer to see the green tick instead of the yellow alert icon lol

Updated for new patch. No changes. Those who said it didn't work, did anything go wrong or was there just an alert in the mod box?

no longer works

hello the mod no longer works it would seem after the 4.0 update

Could i check if this mod needs to be updated? Thank you

Ty Zakharov for the update :)

Updated for 3.0, no changes, verified it still works

This s till work this patch? I heard this update broke a lot of scripts and unit mods.

Anybody know if this still works after 3.0?

这是杰作+1

This is a masterpiece

I don't know if its because the deals were made before the latest update or not but I am definitely still taking hidden negative penalties to my relations with other factions from the vassals.

The +100 modifier doesn't apply to factions you vassalized before installing the mod or before the most recent mod update.

Just made a major update:
- Added a +100 tolerance modifier to make your vassals like you (replaces the vassal treaty bonus I removed in the previous update)
- Gifting vassals (or anyone else) settlements no longer affects relationships with third parties
- Removed diplomacy bonuses from Fudging Vassals vassalization and events so that they no longer cause penalties from third parties.

At some point when I wasn't looking relationships with other factions started dropping for no apparent reason. The only thing I can think of is sometimes when you trade settlements the mod can fail and then you relationships start degrading and you just have to catch it when it happens and load.

Thanks for the update! I'll just have to increase vassal relations the good old fashion way: drowning them in money until they stop complaining.

@UMBRELLA CORPORATION I updated the mod to remove the relationship bonus you normally get with your vassals. This is the only way I can find of removing the diplomatic penalty other nations have towards you because you have vassals they dislike. My previous approach didn't actually remove the diplomatic penalty, it just hid it from the UI. Is the low relationship with your vassals causing you any problems?

hello, I tested a little more.

the other nations are fine.

but I like to have many vassals, and my relations with them are deteriorating a lot.

I play with steam offline.

for a week my relations with my vassals were on the rise

but since the update it's down sharply I don't know why :(

Thank you for your prompt response.

@umbrella corporation do you mean relations with your vassals, or relations with other factions? The former is unfortunately necessary to make the mod work.

Hello, since the update of 23 all my relations are in free fall :( and when I deactivate the mod the relations are on the rise :(

I find the issue is most noticeable with Dwarf allies because of their Holds Grudges trait

I have tested a bit more now that I have time and I can't recreate the problem. First I tried trading the settlement without getting a trade agreement in case that was actually the issue, no drop in attitude. Then I tried it again also grabbing the trade deal just to double check, no drop in attitude despite this happening when I had done the same thing a few hours earlier so I don't know what happened. Maybe just turning the game on and off altered something, no idea.

Letting it run for a few more turns the faction I'm observing doesn't decrease attitude with me which is good but the attitude also doesn't rise like the game says it should (even if its just 35->37)

I haven't tested, but I'd expect that giving a gift to your vassal would make factions that dislike your vassal dislike you for it. You could use Fudging Vassals to gift settlements to vassals through events, which should work around the issue.

could use the console commands mod to workaround that, though bothersome

There still seems to be an issue with other factions still going down despite it saying they should be stable or rising. I did some limited testing and they don't care that you have a vassal anymore but they seem to be negatively impacted if you trade your vassal a settlement.

awesome! Look forward to giving this one another go. Too bad my puppets will hate me, but they'll just have to deal with it. Thanks for fixing this

I've fixed the bug where other factions were losing relations with you because of your vassals, despite the interface saying they shouldn't. I did this by removing all relationship bonuses with your vassals, including liberated factions. Subjugated vassals will now hate you, but hopefully that won't cause any problems apart from not being able to have trade agreements with them.