Stellaris
Armies for Alloys and Food
36 comentarii
Deviant 4 febr. 2023 la 17:04 
Version 3.6 + StarNet = bots stop building armies (perhaps this bug exists even without StarNet)
Deviant 4 febr. 2023 la 15:23 
Но ведь по такой логике литойды должны стоить "минералы + сплавы".

А что насчет псиоников, геноморфов, рабов, титанов и имперской гвардии?
DmitriyAgra 22 dec. 2022 la 7:38 
Будет ли обновляться? Как сейчас работает?
tzverg 21 iul. 2022 la 8:41 
на рабочее сохранение встанет, или начинать новую?
NCTribit 13 iun. 2022 la 10:08 
Можно было бы открыть ветку с обсуждениями. Не считаешь что создание армий нужно было бы сделать еще шире по ресурсам. Скажем 20 ТМС, 15 еды, 20 сплавов, 35 минералов и 50 энергокредитов? соответственно содержание требовало бы немного энергокредитов, еды и ТМС и совсем немного сплавов. В империях без каких либо ресурсов оно заменялось бы на сплавы/минералы.
波尔布特 15 apr. 2022 la 23:30 
dont work with starnet ai, the ai cant produce armies
Teamson 7 apr. 2022 la 15:03 
+ @DrRitterstein
DrRitterstein 6 apr. 2022 la 12:29 
The Alloy price makes sense and even adds up but i think you should increase the Food half to 50 since Food is a lot easier to get then Minerals. Also maybe increase the Food Upkeep to 0,5 or even 1 Food per Army both the represent the Cost to keep your Army properly sustained as from an RP Standpoint and to actually force People, especially Conquering Empires, about having a decent Amount of Farmers around
bizmaster The Slav 23 mart. 2022 la 21:02 
Исправления ИИ не поломают Starnet/Startech AI? Можно ли ставить вместе с ними?
unlomtrois  [autor] 11 mart. 2022 la 13:20 
@[SHL] Oda Nobunaga блин, совсем забыл видимо про них... клонов сделал (синтетические кристаллы), а про геномодов забыл
Скоро попробую сделать
[SHL] Oda Nobunaga 10 mart. 2022 la 16:03 
Очень классный мини-мод, который нужен был давно, ещё со времен добавления сплавов как ресурса.

Я люблю играть через генетику и литоидов-геномодов (урон зверский выходит), но не суть. Суть в том, что литоиды-геномоды все равно потребляют энергию и еду, а не минералы. Это можно как-то исправить или не поддается исправлению? Если нельзя настраивать потребляемый ресурсы для юнита с привязкой к виду, то как насчет сделать копию геномода, но только для литоидов или типа того?

Спасибо за мод ещё раз!
Deviant 29 ian. 2022 la 5:28 
А как насчет идеи сделать производство ТМС из минералов и еды?
unlomtrois  [autor] 29 ian. 2022 la 5:23 
I also released a version without the additional upkeep like in food, alloys and minerals: https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2733866504
unlomtrois  [autor] 29 ian. 2022 la 5:21 
@Jessy2299 that's right, I kinda forgot about all event-spawned troops
Jack 28 ian. 2022 la 20:49 
I like not having to worry about alloys for my armies too along with my fleet, but I appreciate the option, nice mod. :Gifting:
Jessy2299 28 ian. 2022 la 16:00 
Nice mod ! You forgot "Gene Warrior" for the lithoids though. As well as the event troop.
✪ Tax 27 ian. 2022 la 13:49 
Thank you for the icon change! Subed
WP 🥔 26 ian. 2022 la 23:52 
Very nice, you took a pass at the AI!
unlomtrois  [autor] 26 ian. 2022 la 20:30 
@✪ Tax changed the icons, although I'm not a great artist
unlomtrois  [autor] 26 ian. 2022 la 20:27 
Just updated the mod.
main changes:
* improved AI, now it will definitely not be able to destroy its economy with armies
* unified lighter prices (from 15 to 100) and upkeeps (from 0.1 to 1) of any resource
* new icon for lithoid armies

Provide feedback about new prices and upkeeps
Teamson 26 ian. 2022 la 9:06 
@unLomTrois that would be "Military Enhancements" -> are those even comptaible? as ME does change the HP of armies
✪ Tax 26 ian. 2022 la 3:49 
Thanks!
unlomtrois  [autor] 25 ian. 2022 la 18:40 
@WP about AI. I kinda figured out how to deal with ai budget system, and control what AI need to want, so I hope AI will not be an issue soon
unlomtrois  [autor] 25 ian. 2022 la 16:58 
@✪ Tax meh, sounds reasonable
I'll try to find something to replace it with
✪ Tax 25 ian. 2022 la 15:23 
The ork icon is the only reason I'd chose to not get this mod. It's really out of place and breaks immersion. Like, why the ork icon, and not a crystal for example?
unlomtrois  [autor] 25 ian. 2022 la 15:04 
By the way, important info:
When making a list of mods, keep this mod at the bottom of the list
For example, I love playing with "Stellaris on speed" mod, and it turns out it also changes units, that still require minerals, so keep the mod at the very bottom
unlomtrois  [autor] 25 ian. 2022 la 14:59 
@Teamson about armies from other mods, unfortunately no, but I think I can do compatibility with other mods if you list them
About choosing values yourself... I don't know yet, but if this system of cost and upkeep supports variables... maybe
unlomtrois  [autor] 25 ian. 2022 la 14:52 
@Andice ohhhhhhh... right... a whole 1 is a bit too much
I'll make it like one third (or a quarter) of energy upkeep then, depending on the type of army
unlomtrois  [autor] 25 ian. 2022 la 14:45 
@✪ Tax Yeah... these are lithoid units, I had to add new army units for them, because the current paradox's syntax language doesn't allow to make the cost and the upkeep dynamic (like they allow it with buildings), depending on kind of species
I chose the ork icon because it's nearest approach what I wanted to see in the game
I've viewed several lithoid overhaul mods, but they haven't changed any of units, so I chose the orks icon
Teamson 25 ian. 2022 la 11:37 
Man thanks, the Ground-Army-System is so weak sadly...

Anyway i guess this does not work with added armies from mods, right?
Anyway to edit those values myself then?
✪ Tax 25 ian. 2022 la 10:18 
Does the mod make the new army types have the ork icons?
Andice :3 25 ian. 2022 la 9:50 
I think it should be less alloys and less food for upkeep as a pop uses up 1 food and an army isn't a pop.
✠ DFSpecter 24 ian. 2022 la 11:25 
I always imagined the mineral cost was simply what their equipment was fabricated from like the Starcraft minerals and Vespene gas.

The supplies I always thought were left to the command and logistics staff and were paid for by maintenance costs of the ship.

Anyways, I just never think much of it because every time I think of land combat in a Space game, I immediately start thinking of Sw: Empire at War & SW:BF2, and then I end up closing Stellaris to play those games.

... Yea. For some reason, nobody wants to put planet-side combat in their games and I just end up mad whenever I think of the missed opportunities.
|_| Clyax 24 ian. 2022 la 2:03 
This mod would be integral to the gameplay..... if land combat was too. You're ahead of your time, @unLomTrois . Maybe when land combat gets an overhaul this mod would get the attention it deserves.
unlomtrois  [autor] 23 ian. 2022 la 5:31 
@WP Oh.. I usually play on the next-to-last difficulty, so the AI were okay with this... I'll check this on standard difficulty next week
WP 🥔 23 ian. 2022 la 4:20 
Have you checked how the AI behaves with this? I tried something similar about a year and a half ago but the AI really couldn't figure out how to budget food etc. Curious how it's working for you!