Thanks for keeping this mod posted- as the texture are DAMN GOOD!

Hey crudbone may i use the art for the parkas, for a race mod that adds Gnolls? I will credit you for the parka art.

1.4?

Since this mod is reported working in 1.3 I've added it to the No Version Warning-mod
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2599504692
Hope it helps!

1.3?

is this getting a 1.3?

*textures (plural)

also filled the north-side texture with shadows so that it is more consistent with apparel from the vanilla game.

and did the same for fat body types

updated the east-side textures for the male body type so it doesn't look weird anymore.

it looks fantastic so its worth it :3

Its no problem keep up the work though dont let this get you down at all :)

Sorry guys, but I had to pay the price. Maybe someday I'll update it with completely original textures so I can make it a standalone mod. No promises, though.

im with shockedhearts on this. i was kinda hoping this would be a standalone >_<

Even though I fully respect the agreement for this mod to be attached to use with VAE I personally would have liked this mod to be an alone thing :/ I like the vanilla apparel and the only thing I dont like is the parka. Im glad you guys worked things out though. wholesome legal stuff is the best kind of legal stuff

I'm glad you reached an agreement with Oskar, it's always nice to see two people try to reason with each other :D

And yeah, it does look much better now (imo)!

and fixed the icons being too small

Ok now it should look a lot like, y'know, a parka.

Alright, I'm gonna keep it up on the workshop. Also a new update to make the east-side textures look less revealing (akin to dusters) is coming soon.

It’s fine for it to stay up now :)

@Crudbone Hey man, you made a mistake, albeit a pretty serious mistake, but you feel bad for what you did and fixed it fairly quickly. I don't think it is something you should beat yourself up over, as long as you understand what you did and how you should go about things next time. I think if Oskar says it's fine for it to stay up, then you should have nothing to worry about :)

Though now I kinda feel guilty keeping this mod on the workshop. It just doesn't feel right. But part of me wants to keep it up for those who just want a retexture for the vanilla parkas. Idk what ya'll would prefer me to do. Gonna leave this decision up to the comments whether by Oskar, modders, or regular players.

There's no hard feelings on my end, @Oskar Potocki. And yeah, you're right, I should've looked at the licensing beforehand (or asked you permission first; I was impatient and made it public anyway). I don't know much about copyright laws so I just figured crediting you for the base was all I needed to do. It really was my mistake and I sincerely apologize.

I'm not too bothered about the fact that this now requires VAE. People should have your mod installed anyway, it's just THAT good. Keep up with the excellent mods, Oskar.

@Smash Phil @Crudbone
Smash is correct. It's the same standard for every single mod using any of Vanilla Expanded assets in any way. If I allow one modder to do what they want without asking, I have to allow all modders to do it, and that I cannot agree to.

So yes, nothing personal.

@IronXides I don't think you understand how frustrating it can be for someone to copy / paste part of your mod into their own. It's completely fair and justified for the modder to license it as they see fit. In fact if you take a look at RimWorld's EULA modders legally own the content they create. While Ludeon reserves certain rights over them, the mod authors are allowed to do with them as they see fit (so long as they do not violate the EULA). Modders are allowed to license them with whatever license they want (this includes the CC BY-NC-ND license which VE mods use).

While many modders do not mind if another mod is derived from theirs (or partially copied).. many do mind. It's not for to you to decide, and frankly... most of us don't care what you think.

@Crudbone Don't take any of it personal, Oskar keeps these standards for every mod deriving from Vanilla Expanded.

Thanks you very much @Crudbone. Please next time always check licenses under mods.

it is done @Oskar Potocki . from now on, VAE will be a mod dependency for this mod. I hope this clears everything up.

keeping this mod hidden until i can figure out how to make this depend on VAE

But artists whose best talent is mashups mostly can't release mashups right now, so they have to either make their art but never share it publicly, or they have to make other art that's less inspired and less novel. The tradeoff we currently make is that society denies itself an entire form of beautiful art to appease a subset of artists over a dubious threat. It's not worth it.

TLDR: I would rather all mods allowed derivative works even if half the modding community left, because we would get dozens of colossal megamods with diamond polish, far better than Vanilla Expanded.

Hypothetically, if the rule everywhere was that mods of mods are okay, probably a lot of people who say they wouldn't make mods under that rule would make mods anyway, especially if they're better at making mods than making other art. If they're better at making some other art, videos or music or pictures, paid or free, that's fine, go do that. Few talented artists would stop making free mods for videogames and spend their time on some personal hobby that doesn't produce any kind of art for anyone else.

And while it's true that some modders won't mod if they can't prevent others from modding their works, it's also true that some modders never mod because they're not allowed to modify others' works. There is a strong survivorship bias effect; we often hear from indignant Oskar Potockis that they'll stop modding if others can mod their mods, but we rarely hear from the Neil Cicieregas of the gaming community about the beautiful mashup mods they'd make if they were allowed to do so. We don't currently see the mod equivalents of the smash mashup album Mouth Moods [soundcloud.com], which of course treads all over dozens of musicians' copyrights without permission and is also a devastating series of bangers that's better than any combination of the albums it's built off of.

I don't think there's a defensible principle that says mods of games are good, but mods of mods are bad.

Probably you can come up with a narrow lens that says, "It's Tynan's right to let other people mod his game, and it's modders' right to prevent other people from modding their mods." But this is a narrow focus based on existing copyright law and what's good for individual already-existing authors.

If you ask what's good for society more broadly, I think the wide popularity and proliferation of modding communities suggests that when people can modify existing works, it's good for society. It's not just a weird quirk that many game developers let people do this. And I don't think you can articulate a reason that modding games is good for society, but modding mods would be bad, even if some modders like to mod and don't like being modded.

I thought it looked familiar but didn't know why until I looked at the comments

I hope you're able to resolve the issue with Oskar. I want to use this as I hate parka texture too. I'll follow this and see if the situation improves. :)

Like when you buy a movie, you don't buy the rights to rearrange the scenes and sell it on. The mods are free, but it doesn't give you the right to take my work and remix it and release it as your own without my permission.

Game developers cannot infringe on somebody elses license. I assure you, if developer required me to give away my hard work to everyone for free, I would not touch RimWorld modding with a barge pole.

This kind of pointless modder spat is why game developers should require modders allow derivative works.

I can allow it if you make this mod require Vanilla Apparel Expanded to run, both in about.xml and here on Steam.

Hello, I am the author of the original texture you used to retexture Parkas.

As you have probably not read that deep into it, our textures are protected under Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International (CC BY-NC-ND 4.0).

Based on this license,
NoDerivatives — If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you may not distribute the modified material.

You have remixed, transformed and built upon the material I have created and redistributed it without asking for permission.

This is a hard rule that we follow, and since you didn't ask me for permission before publishing, this permission is NOT granted. I politely ask you to remove any traces of my texture from the mod, otherwise I will have to flag it with Steam for violating the intellectual property law and breaking the licensing law.

I'm sorry.

Also as 2 people already said Instant Sub

YES Thank you. This is amazing i never did like the vanilla Parka because it always hide the cool clothes they have this mod is amazing

Absolutely awesome! That vanilla parka was criminally unrealistic.

great thank you!

Instant sub.

best mod.

Instant sub.