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Hi everyone, I've updated the mod to 1.6 and rewrote the mod from scratch based on @Zyx Abacab's recommendation. Link:

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3533769253&tscn=1753451357

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@ speedY [ Я v Ь ] At this point, "updating" No Sympathy (as it currently exists) would mean fooling RimWorld into thinking it is compatible when it really isn't. This would only invite further confusion about the state the mod is in.

There will be no further updates, unless someone rewrites the mod as a C# DLL. @ Captain Shitface has not committed to taking on maintaining the mod yet.

Will you update it to 1.6?

Thanks for a great mod

thanks for everything

This has been one of my favorite mods for a long time, I look forward to any future updates, Thank you Zyx Abacab and Thank you CaptainShitface

@ Captain Shitface Sure, no problem! I don't know how much I can help, but I'm happy to try.

Sorry for ignoring your friend request earlier; I tend to receive a couple unprompted requests a week, so I've become used to just ignoring them out of hand. :S

@Zyx Abacab

Any chance you can accept my friend request and chat with me a little? I'll see about moving this to c#, but I just wanted to know about some of the issues you've run into or noticed, so I can account for them and understand the necessity or problem points we're addressing

I'd really appreciate it :)

But yeah, I'm updating a few mods and I'm sure they'll be plenty of edge cases for some things. Like I just did Defensive Positions, but I'm sure they'll be some sort of issue when it comes to different planetary levels once Odyssey comes out.

@ Captain Shitface " I can't replicate or notice any issues with it currently. "

This is the nature of RimWorld modding. The real fun starts when you start having intermittent issues with no changes to the mod!

I'm seeing a lot of people have issues with this mod. I wanted to update it myself for version 1.6, possibly even creating a C# version.

Thing is though, I can't replicate or notice any issues with it currently. Is it just breaking from mod conflicts or something for y'all?

I uploaded a mod that may be what some people are looking for from this mod. It removes the mood debuffs from prisoners dying.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3487187363

I've always had this hoping it'd work, but... uhh nah.

did someone updated this mod or know an alternative pls ?

o7 good work comrade!

no, it doesnt work on 1.5

@isra617 This mod works just fine on 1.5

Just wondering if theres a 1.5 fork or mod similar to this one for 1.5?

I know it is unsupported, but I just want to inform anyone stumbling upon this message, that this mod causes newly generated pawns to automatically have old-age ailments (ie. dementia, hearing-loss)

I use an archive version of Rimworld so that my mods don't keep constantly going out of style (or, you know, crashing the game because the updates break how the mods work).
I really appreciate you keeping this up.

@ Geno Cidal I have no idea if it still works. That's kinda the meaning of "unsupported"... :)

Maybe someone else will chime in?

I am just wondering if this still works if your updated to 1.5 but haven't gotten any of the DLC's cause with all these mods, who would need DLC's,lol

@ Zyx Aabacab thanks for the point out.

@ ThermalAtlas See the last entry in the FAQ.

If that's not enough, it's probably because RimWorld has changed too much since No Sympathy was written. There's a reason this mod is unsupported, after all.

Hello how do I use CherryPicker to remove some of the certain mood debuff related to Biotech, because I still get the mood debuff when I do organ nonsense on prisoners.

@ Veryfungi3221 Usually, memes override whatever No Sympathy can do. This appears to work inconsistently for some people, which is part of the reason why this mod is no longer supported.

the desc is kinda confusing about it so: if I had Ideology installed, and there are colonists with the anti-harvesting meme and I harvested the corpses of dead raiders using Harvest Organs Post-Mortem, would the colonists still be upset?

@ brevisdiem34キツネ Indeed it would be! However, to put in an options menu would mean rewriting No Sympathy as a so-called "code mod", and it is currently a very simple "XML patch mod".

Actually, rewriting No Sympathy would probably solve all the problems that everyone is having, since we could introduce conditional logic and other neat tricks that are impossible to do with the current approach.

I used this mod because I wanted to harvest organs from prisoners (with good intent) to replace the colonist's destroyed kidney(s) and lungs. I have a look at the code and I see we can exploit guests too(!), and butcher human corpses with impunity as intended?

I was looking at the code to try and install "Grim Reality" without one overriding or overlapping the other. There was and I would have to delete the code line-by-line; It would help greatly if there were checkboxes in the mod-options to toggle sensitivity to (1)prisoners (2)guests and (3)butcherhumanlike.

@ Lily Thank you, I really appreciate the support! The community is the reason we make mods! :)

I would happily keep maintaining No Sympathy , if only it wasn't slowly becoming more and more broken for non-obvious reasons. No XML patches in the mod have been substantially changed in years, and the thoughts being patched out haven't changed, either; and, as best as I can tell, XML patching is still an essential RimWorld modding system. So I have no idea why thoughts that should be patched out, and indeed were patched out, would suddenly stop being patched.

Actually, several of the last "updates" have consisted entirely of incrementing the internal version number, just to keep RimWorld from complaining that the mod is for a previous version.

If you ever do decide to take on maintaining the mod, I'll be happy to help you as much as I can.

Oh, what a ride this was. I've been playing Rimworld ever since b19. Once it updated to 1.0 I took a break for a few months. When I got back, I began modding it heavily. This mod eventually ended up in my modlists and was (and is still) the single best quality of life mod out there.
Thank you for keeping it updated for this long! I hope it stays alive out there. If the mod breaks, I honestly might try to learn how to fix it. Either that or stay in one version of Rimworld forever, haha.
This is truly one of the best mods ever made.

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@ Marchiel Graham It has been a fun ride! I'm happy that so many have found the mod useful.

My only regret is that Discord (and the Googlepocalypse) has ruined any chance of finding correct, up-to-date information on how to write code mods for RimWorld. The functionality of No Sympathy seems like it should be trivial to make into such a code mod, if the process to do so was properly documented.

Thank you for your service, honored brother! I will surely miss this mod as it has been doing god's work for me since my earliest day of Alpha RimWorld

@ Gaming It has been an honor! :)

thanks for your service to the community I'll miss this mod.

@ asleepsheep You're most welcome! (:

o7 ive had this mod since i bought the game years ago, thank you for all your work <3

@ SkylerJames13 You're very welcome! It's gratifying to have been a part of something as big as RimWorld, even if it's only a very small part. :)

o7, thanks for the mod and support over all these years

its not working

Thank you!

@ Aika I'm unable to replicate the issue on my side, so... sorry, I have no idea.

@ Aika So I've looked over the code for Harvest Organs Post Mortem ; neither it nor No Sympathy have changed.

It's likely that it's either some other mod, or that RimWorld's internal code has changed again.