Aside from the upkeep, the army limit is the issue for me. I like the vanilla proportions with economy, armies not constantly full-stacking, number of armies on the campaign map, agent limit, etc.

My gpu can't handle battles with too many armies, and I'm forced to autoresolve sometimes or crash the game, and they weigh on performance of the campign map as well, largely ignoring military access and affecting turn times and sometimes lag.

It's very hard for me to play Radious with 3K because of this. It's too far from the scale of the base game. But the unit rosters are so, so cool! Lu Chong's Southern Army is the best I've seen in any total war game to date. He has every type of unit and all of them are very good, not to mention, covered in gold. All of them are amazing, the shock cavalry is awesome, the archers, ....

A starting event that applies to every faction and applies a retinue cost upkeep modifier would probably be the simplest way to implement an even higher retinue cost modifier without needing to update every single unit file.

Agree with many people below I think even higher upkeep would be good.

~An extra 200% maintenance would be better, mid game you can easily field 10 armies making the marches feel less strategic than they could be

Is it easy to change or are we talking every single unit file?

Any chance you make a version with like 200%?Or a economy halving submod, taxation just goes to insane levels in mid game and lategame, There is just not enough factors to outweight the taxation being so strong, not even compulsive recruitment.

Leonardough: Nope, only 1 at a time can work.

Do the upkeep increase mods stack? like if I had both the 30% and 50% ones enabled it would become 80%? just wondering.

TAKEDA 🔴 SHINGEN: For that use our base overhaul without these upkeep submods and yo uwont have issues having a lot armies. :-)

Is there not a mod that decrease the upkeep? For people want to play with a lot of armies.

I'd like to add my signature to the request for a bigger upkeep increase mod, like 150% even

i want more more Increased Upkeep Submod like110%，i save too much money let game lose fun

i want more more Increased Upkeep Submod

really like ur mod but i dont wana use it anymore the upkeep is way too low for me and these upkeep reductions doesnt work it doesnt matter if clean install and what order

I tried it just the main mod part 1 & 2 and just the upkeep mod before and after. Still didn't change anything for me.

I have not

Did you change the load order of the mods?

This doesn't seem to be working for the Ai only players for me.

This mod isn't working. Upkeep doesn't change at all

Specifically the steps recommended when the game crashes, even though your game doesn't it might be worth clearing out the launcher cache etc

I have re-uploaded the mod, maybe your game will pick up on it this time. Otherwise, please try the steps found in our FAQ - https://1drv.ms/b/s!Agh-xpyNoM0Z0GZWopm3cKqmIEr3?e=wEpDL5

I tried putting it before and after main mods.

Did you change anything related to mod load order?

Not working even when only using Radious mods

That will be cool.

It would be great if there was a 150% or 200%, one, I feel a great exaggeration regarding the maintenance reductions, the administrative management of the game does not make me very exciting.

how bad would it break the internal balancing at say 100 or 150%.

80% is the last level where we still feel there can be balance around our mod. Anything higher breaks the internal balancing

Any chance of getting a even higher upkeep sub mod?

Damn steam and its 1000 word limit

Synthetic Man. Would it be possible to just make a standalone unit mod balanced for vanilla? This would curb the stream of complaints. Even if that meant making the units tied to mid to late game reforms.

Of course sadly the core mechanics that make up Radious would be missing. I love the units but earlier start dates with Radious can be troubling unless you are far out West as Ma Teng or Gong Du. Maybe even a few others.The only other way to increase "upkeep or cost" would be to add penalties to AI and Player regarding their prestige ranking. The lower your prestige, the more things will cost and longer it will take to build buildings. These costs will come down to 50% when you reach a certain rank and before going away when you reach Emperor.

Then there is your court. Radious has 2 of every court position expect Heir and Faction leader until you reach the Imperial Court. It would be in theory a simple thing to make certain court positions reduce the negatives caused by your prestige rank by a certain amount before reaching Emperor. AI Difficulty will of course give them bonuses so they will ignore this to a certain extent.

Simply put. "If you're not Emperor. You're a filthy peasant."

Now... Is this possible? How would I know? You're the modder, not me.

@Lazzerini Hakis

Somthing to bring the Upkeep to Vanilla like Levels would be great if it could be done. The Sheer ammount of armies just gets tedious later on, if there was a way to limit armies too it would be great.

We've decided to not release any submods which increase the upkeep higher than 80% because it would destroy the internal balance of the mod.

Hello everyone, I see some people here seeks for an even higher upkeep, similar like the upkeep in vanilla. Type please here your request and I will see what I can do.

It would be amazing to find a x3 Upkeep or X2,5 for AI and player, vanilla version :/

Think I'm looking for something a little more extreme where the unit cost & upkeep is double so make each unit on the map really count instead of loads of full stacks.

I've redone and re-uploaded the most recent update, if it is still not working for you, make sure that it is loading before the main Radious mod

Mod doesn't seem to be working currently :(

not working with coop strangely on the main campaign which is strange.

@Synthetic Man Would it be possible to make an increased recruitment cost submod?

not working in the mandate of heaven dlc.
three kingdoms period work fine

Can you update? @Synthetic Man

In what loading order do I need to put this? :/

I don't think it is working for me for new Dong Zhuo campaign under the time period of mandate of heaven dlc. I have tried putting the mod on bottom and top of load order but still does not work. Please help.

@Parse I've re-uploaded the update, check if it is working properly now

Good day Everyone!

Radious Total War Mod - Three Kingdoms - Updated 22.01.2020 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/33360778

Our Largest Three Kingdoms mod update is finally here! Enjoy thousands of changes, full support of latest official content and updates, new awesome promotional trailer and much more!

Big thank you to all our supporters who are making all this possible!

All Upkeep and Chinese submods are now updated aswell!

More to come!

Yours,

Team Radious

<3 huge thanks

Done, everything is updated

cool :D i cna't play this mod with a foookin 5v5 full armies battles thats just silly

I just came back home, I will be updating the submod updates shortly

any news about update? unless its still working ?