So much fun, thank's for yr work !

Oh dude, Umbra is so much fun. I feel like a blender! :D

I have subscribed to this mod, and 2 other Odinblade classes, and the in-game character creation text is in Russian (I think, def not English). Any idea what is going wrong?

For anyone wondering why changing stance does not work, it's because the stance is using the status effect that could be removed automatically or during scenes, so pay attention to those stance status effect before using Way of Umbra skill. If there's the icon, then you can change stance, if not, don't bother.

For anyone struggling with Way of the Umbra sometimes not switching skills correctly, there is a workaround/cope to get it working 99% of the time. Whenever you load a save or go through a loading screen cycle once through Way of the Umbra OUTSIDE out of combat. When the bug does occur in combat no amount of cycling can fix it so dont waste your time. Just get into a habit of cycling through your skills before any major combat encounters and you should be right as rain.

Absolutely love umbra as a concept and how it plays in game but my goodness the stance switch bug never having been fixed is AWFUL. It completely ruins your combat plans when switching decides to not work and you don't get to juggle between cooldowns.

For anyone not getting the skill swap when using Way of the Umbra make sure that your skill bar is unlocked. If your skill bar is locked the game cannot change anything on it even if you use the skill.

I had this same issue and making sure it was unlocked worked for me.

I'm also one of those not getting skill swap/reset on form swap (Way of the Umbra). Not sure how often as I just started but this issue may make the skills fairly unusable in my case, so curious, as others, if there is some conflict or other fix.

I do have skills auto added to my hotbar btw, in case anyone thought that was the issue I am referencing.

Does being invisible count as being in stealth? or do i have to spend a turn going into sneak mode

I'm having an issue with chaos form skills that cause fading. Half the time they deal physical damage, and half the time they do chaos. It makes it hard to predict and rely on that skill

Sometimes when I swap between Orders, the skills don't change at all. Is this a known bug? Mod compatability issue? is there a fix?

@Soldier Prout have a look into this, it helped me
"Whilst using the Umbra class, ensure that you have automatically add skills to toolbar enabled in the games option menu, otherwise upon switching Form all of your skills will be removed from your toolbar!"

Hey guys honnestly wonderfull mod, i just have a little bug sometime when i swap my form it doesn't change my skills. It's a bit boring when you want to reset your cooldown . i got the invisibility, the form cahnge for chaos but the skill doesn't swap. if someone now why, maybe a conflict with another spell or something like that. thanks you !

Hey everyone, I created a video outlining the skills and showcasing the for this mod. https://youtu.be/87zFz3KfGfo

After playing with this a bit more it's definitely too strong. A lot of these skills are just better versions of Scoundrel skills or combine the mechanics of 2 Scoundrel skills into a better skill. It's Scoundrel on steroids. There's little reason to use many Scoundrel skills because most of these outclass them in just about every way(and I'm even using your Scoundrel overhaul.)

Nerve Slash, for example, is absolutely busted. It's essentially Rupture Tendons that does 85% as much damage but applies a stacking debuff, has a 3 turn cooldown instead of 5, while also having the warp and guaranteed crit functionality of Backlash but with a 10m range instead of 8.

This is honestly a little too strong, especially when paired with your Scoundrel overhaul. And then people want a "no dagger requirement" version to make them do even more damage? Damn, just play on Explorer difficulty if you want the game that easy lol.

How do i remove the "order form/chaos form" buff on my character?

For some reason i don't see skill descriptions on order versions.

Blade Dance does not work? Just hits one target

Umbra is my favourite class so far, thanks man!! but is there any version of this class mod get no dagger req?? or can we use a sword and a dagger or dual sword with this class ?

I have a question：
——I have no learning skills，but when I learn skills, it reminds me that I have already learned

If there is corvo I shall subscribe

How come it shows Strength Scaling than Finesse for all Umbra Skills? Anyone else having this issue?

enemies have modded class too?

I have almost the same bug BurningKitsune has, when I change to Order form almost all quickslot skills disappear and I have to realocate everything again, PAIN.

Hey, I am getting a problem where I cannot switch to chaos form. I use the skill and go invisible but the skills stay in order

LEague

Sometimes chaos damage from any skill is mitigated by physical shield and sometimes by magic shield. Seems random. Odincore and script extender are installed. Any ideas why?

i noticed alot of abilities say they do increased damage from stealth, but does that include invisibility or just sneaking stealth? at my low level i havn't really been able to tell yet

Hello everyone,
I want to try this out my Lohse future playthough alongside with the Specte class. What are the other 2 builds that you would recommend with it ?

这个职业的16级源力大招伤害只有原版刺客的一半。

Hey, I'm now stuck with only the Order abilities. When I switch forms, they have stopped switching abilities

how balanced is this? it aint OP right ?

I am simple man. I see Corvo? I click.

Ever think about adding a strength and finesse patch to this mod like you did with specter?

Hey @Odinblade when can we expect a update on the Umbra? i just seen the update on the specter and it felt a lot better. i know your probably busy with life and other mods i was just curious but thanks again for all the mods and hard work you do!

the moded abilities that are intened to do magic damage occasionally do physical

since act 2 everytime i switch stances infight, my skills stay the same even if i switch to chaos. also no cooldown reset. any suggestions to solve this?

Any chance we'll get a no dagger reqs version? ^-^

When it says skills used "from stealth", that means invisibility, right? Not just sneaking.

I just love this Corvo cover lol

Thank you for the experience. I managed to spend 36 AP and several execute abilities in one turn with this class. The game wouldn't be this great if i didn't download this mod. Thank you.

not showing up on mod list

@Odin what's the current status on that add-on mod to make Chaos not roll for physical damage?

Why does changing from Order to Chaos form cost AP? Adding an extra AP to all your skills is a pretty big feel bad.

Vendors seem no longer seem to sell finesse based daggers at all when using this along with the "no odinblade vendors" option. Went through all of act one without finding a single finesse knife on a vendor (they sell just intelligence based ones). They can still be crafted and unique ones still exists so it seems to be purely a vendor issue. posting this here to see if anyone else notices this before I post it in bugs section.

Hello there, first of all thanks for all your wonderful mods that add replay ability and fun.
I´m having trouble with the umbra chaos form and null zone, i´ve installed a mod that makes armor a % to resist( example all magic ammo is a 105% chance of resisting an effect) , so if someone with full magical armor enters
the game infinitely calculates the resisted silence and crashes, any fixes or ways to get around random spawns or npcs from triggering this effect?
Thanks beforehand and keep up the awesome work

Hey, is it possible to make the dagger throws "on target" cause they get mostly blocked because of small object or if im close (what im supposed to be as umbra I pretty often hit myself. (Or maybe atleast make it an option to turn the skill into a "on target" or "on click" spell idk the right name for it.) Everything else I love about the class,

Lucky Ace, if you use the "innate" learned melee attack, that comes from equipping the spell "Way of the Umbra" it will always be chaos. However if you use the standard melee attack (for me, hit the X key to bring up the mini menu with the weapon attack icon) it will be an attack against armor.

Either its normal or I'm the issue-kid again :D
My Basic Skill does never change, it always stays on Chaos - so I have no "armor killing" basic skill. Is this normal?