so its good modal

that looks like its from fortnite

what does it do

Real nice model

if this gets added and valve doesn't add a custom animation for the hk slap i'm suing

UMP

i like that weapon in tf2

It ACTUALLY looks like a Heckler

@unknown Thank you! Glad you like it- and yes, it is supposed to be a replacement for the SMG.

WOW AWESOME MODEL , looks refibed and lethal in the good arms , that can would be a reskin for the smg as example

@Jasmineport Thank you! Happy you like it!

The model is really smooth and well designed, id love to see this ingame

Heckler my Koch.

looks like an mp7 or mpk

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Thank you! Happy you like it!

Thank you SO MUCH Momo, Sniper needs more SMGs.
Also this looks AWESOME!

Heh, that's an easter egg. Happy you like the weapon!

Judas? Why? btw, nice weapon, snipers needs more smg

Thank you! I am glad you like it.

Even through it's based on a real weapon you made it fit TF2's cartoony artstyle. Plus i really love the reference to heckler & koch.

This should just be a reskin because the H&K UMP is a weapon with high stopping power and is usually accurate

Looks like a fucking UMP from Cs 1.6 and this is a compliment

Is that a compliment or a complaint? I don't understand what you're trying to convey

cuz your making it look like it

is this call o duty dAM IT

the h*ck?

I had a feeling it looked familiar

what the heck

@Beat Crazey It is based on the UMP-45.

@DrIvanRadosivic Stats are all up to Valve to decide.

Is this based on a mp5x?

stock SMG is good for close range and for finishing off people. I would make it have firing modes on the alt fire of full auto(default mode with rnadom crits) and semi auto(20% slower firing speed, no random crits and minicrits on headshots) as a FUNction.

Cleaners Carbine's Crikey Meter could use the Heatman's Heatmaker treatment, as in 3 kills/9 assists fill up the crickey meter and you can use it even when it is not full as a way to improve it.

waht do you think of this?

and what do you think the Heckler could use?

thank god they only made 1 smg (the cleaners carbine) now thank you

Alright! Thank you! for answering my question!

Ah, well, thank you!

Ah, that's awfully nice of you. And cool way technology has help foster collaborations between awesome artists and modelers.

I stumbled upon Extra Ram's wonderful piece of concept art in the TF2 Emporium Discord server, liked it and made it into a thing.

Well, would you mind if I asked how you all came into contact with one another and began working on this entry?

@Jpfisher (Fritz) It's there, don't worry- but it's only visible from a specific viewing angle.
@Meta Breakers I'm sure our concept artist, Extra Ram, will be happy to answer.

Looking at the design of the gun really gave me UMP vibes noticing the bridge and structure of the gun, but people kept throwin me off with comments about the MP5K and all these others SMGs, but honestly, this feels like a very cartoony marriage of the UMP from Counter-Strike and the SMG from TF2 (referring to the grip and lack of stock making it appear almost like an automatic pistol of sorts) and it is an absolute beauty to behold. My only point of curiousity would be how you all came up with this idea and what was the thought process behind it?

I see the word "JUDAS" on the side of the gun in the Concept Art. Did this make it into the final version? I can't tell if it's a similar color to the gun, or just not in there at all.
Thanks!

Sniper deserves more secondary weapons that can actually shoot bullets

The SMG and The Cleaner's Carbine is not very useful when it comes to close combat, he's all about staying in far away places which is good. But how about giving him a SMG that is good for flanking, offense or maybe a diferent place style like a Sub-class

You point it at the badman and they fall over

@FOKAI It's a new secondary weapon for the Sniper. It... shoots bullets?

what does it do? (please don't get mad at me)

@atlantic_penguin2k Thank you! And that's a good idea, I might make a version with an unfolded stock.

@Primrose That's all thanks to Extra Ram, the concept artist.

Lovely job taking the modern design of the UMP and stylizing it perfectly for the TF2niverse! Probably the best looking transition of a modern firearm to TF2's style I've ever seen.

Fingers crossed Valve is agreeable with it!

we NEED a new smg for sniper.
His regular smg is awful and the cleaners carbine is only good for mvm tank shredding when mixed with the bushwacka

what do you think of Team fortress 2 getting Assault rifles and SMGs where appropriate? For example, Heavy would get LMG variants of his miniguns. This of this nature.