@kregano

Thanks for the reply. I don't want to change the order of Grenadier tree to anything but the vanilla order (only difference is Cone of Fire replacing Suppression). I subscribed to your mod and modified XComClassData.ini by removing all the Ranger stuff and reordered the Grenadier tree. I am subscribed to other suppression mods ([WOTC] Suppression Plus and [WOTC] Suppression For Suppression) and I hope that not only are there not conflicts, but that Cone of Fire is detected as Suppression by the other mods and is modified accordingly.

If you use Alternative Mod Launcher, you can edit the .ini file that controls the changes to skill trees. Just straight up delete the Ranger stuff.

That said, I don't think you'd be able to switch the Grenadier tree to whatever it is you want, because IIRC the skills might have hard coded level requirements.

@kregano

Hi. Is there a WotC version of just Cone of Fire or just Cone of Fire + adding default suppression to all classes? AoE suppression is what I'm really looking for (I always thought Demolition and Suppression were crappy skills that needed to be buffed) and I'd rather not have all the other stuff (skill rank reordering; ranger changes).

The mod uses the same suppression effect file as vanilla, and the suppression ability you get as a fresh grenadier is the vanilla suppression ability.

can Cone of Fire apply the vanilla suppression vanilla instead of the custom one added by this mod? i have a lot of mods that add abilities that interact with suppression, and im afraid a different kind of suppression would mess with it.

Very useful reply ThatOneGuy, I'll try to adress that on my next playthrough, I don't use grenadiers, but the Ranger from this mod is a must for me.

Fixed my issue by unsubbing to "SWR Hidden Potential WotC". It changes class promotion data, I'm sure you could get it to work by comparing the edits done in grenadier and ranger but I just don't see it worthwhile personally.

Same bug as DvM4. Using this mod on a fresh campaign with config folder deleted and mod put at the top of the mod load order(was near the bottom-middle when this first occurred) before starting: Brigadier rank is now my new 8th rank with the abilities Squaddie should have from this mod(Implacable, slash, launch grenade, suppression), while Squaddie just has vanilla abilities. For both Ranger and Grenadier only, no other changes from this mod appearing such as slink master or cone of fire etc. Not sure what's causing it, I'll just list what I have that changes abilities, promotion screens/armory, or anything like it:

" [WOTC] New Promotion Screen", "[WotC] I'm the Commander here", "[WotC] I'm the Commander here Extension", "Blademaster Momentum", "[WOTC] Train from Armoury", "View Locked Skills - Wotc", "Commanders Choice", Collateral Demolition Wotc

Yeah, so i can't get this to work. Everytime i try, the mod just doesn't work, or the perks get scrambled, with the brigadier rank popping up on the end of the tree.

Already tried moving the mod to the top of the load order, but no change. A shame, it stopeed working for some reason, used to play a lot with these balances.

Is there a rpg overhaul mod that makes this work with rpg overhaul?

@heactrice: It might be a load order issue. Go to C:\Users\___\Documents\My Games\XCOM2 War of the Chosen\XComGame\Config, open XComModOptions.ini, and move "ActiveMods=WOTCRangerandGrenadierRebalanced" to the top.

unsubbing due to an issue where my colonel tier perks are replaced with suppresion and launch grenade..please find a fix for this

This mod doesn't seem to work for me anymore, any known conflicts?

@KdMgao: I could use some more info to help fix the problem.

[con of fire] not work. how can do it?

@Erazil: Thanks, I'll get it in soon!

French localization shared :)

I lost my Shinobi with his skill Fleche in WotC :'( , your mod gives a little color (dark ^^) to my Ranger.
my Ranger thank you very much and me too ;)

In retrospect, I think the problem might have been that I was running this mod and your Squaddie Skills mod at the same time

allright, thanks for doing that and good luck. If I can help somehow by uploading anything, let me know. Cant wait to finally use your mod^^

@StuLLe+Feezec: I need to some more testing with this, but I'm thinking that it's some kind of weird load order thing.

@kregano I am using that mod as well. I couldnt find a XComClassData.ini file coming with that mod though. Or did you want me to run the game with only the New promotion Screen by default mod and then upload the XComClassData.ini from the game? Sorry, I am kind of a noob in these things)

I am indeed using that mod

@StuLLe+Feezec: are either of you using New promotion screen by default mod? Because that added Brigadier rank support, which might be causing the problems.

@kregano: I would love to, but I have no idea where that Brigadier rank is coming from. Just checked all my subscribed mods again and there are only a very few which mess with soldier classes or skills, like the two lubrucation classes, I am the commander here and some concerning SPARKS. Other than that its just cosmetic, UI and some gameplay stuff like revert overwatch rules etc. Never heard of a Brigadier rank before they showed up for rangers and grenadiers^^

I'm having problems similar to @StuLLe. The order of the skill trees for Rangers and Grenadiers is all scrambled. For example, Slink Master is at Corporal, Cone of Fire is at Sergeant, and a new Brigadier rank is above Colonel.

@StuLLe: Okay, I see what the problem is. The Brigadier mod is probably loading before/after this one, and breaking both mods in the process. If you could post the XComClassData.ini file from the Brigadier mod, I could whip up some test versions for you to try out and see if that solve the problems.

another info which might help: running only your mod works perfectly. when I run it with all the other mods, the rangers and grenadiers skill tree show a new rank called brigadier, which is one rank higher than colonel. this rank shows the skills I am supposed to get as squaddie with your mod (slash and impacable for ranger etc.) the newly added skills like slink master dont show at all.

@kregano aight, no worries. enjoy your holidays

@StuLLe: Okay, that's weird. I'll try to put some work into figuring it out, but since it's a holiday week, I can't promise a solution.

That said, WOTC has a weird amount of .ini related issues, and you might be running into that.

@kregano thx for the reply. Yes, I only tried on new campains and I am getting the regular vanilla tree. The alternative launcher doesnt show any override conflicts as well. I even unsubscribed and resubribed to all the mods. Just cant get it to work sadly.

@StuLLe: Are you using this on a new campaign? And when you say it's not working, are you getting the vanilla class starting skills, or skills from later in the tree?

Your mod sounds great, but I cant get it to work. Tried deleting the config file as well as moving the mod up in the load order list with the alternative launcher. Any ideas?

@darkangel_7939: It could be a load order issue. You might have to move this mod closer to the top of the list in ModOptions.ini file.

i dont now if its this mod bat its in the erier the proplom when i get my recruts in my pool the clas is not what i chost it to be eney one hav the sam proplom ore can help??

Thanks for your advice!
I actually know about the ini file, but would appreciate a workshop mod that can be toggeled on and off in the load up menu; that way I can still access the Daily Challenge.

good mod, could really use this perk with the Ranger. Always saw the lack of stealth ability on athe ranger as a problem.

@Kregano, you are for more concise than I was. Fewer steps your way

@Spotter/@Green Raven: Just change "ShadowStep" in the .ini file to "LightningReflexes" or whatever the name is. You can find it in the game's XComClassData.ini file.

@Green Raven you do know that you can do that yourself in the Class ini file, by copying the Lightning Reflexes code from elsewhere, right?

Could you please make a mod that changes shadowstep to lightning reflex in the Ranger tree?
Thanks for your hard work!

I'm having a same issue here. :P

That's my go-to fix for mod problems, and I'm still having the issue. I also started a new campaign to be sure.

For those having issues with this mod. Go to the folder C:\Users\*you user name*\Documents\My Games\XCOM2 War of the Chosen\XComGame. IN there delete the config folder and then start up the game. This should clear up any old configs that are possibly mucking up the mod order. I did this and the mod is working just fine.

I'm having the same problem as duerthuer. Grenadiers and Rangers look the same.

mod is not working for me. started a new game twice and neither the grenadier or the ranger get the change to the perks

A small suggestion/idea/tweak: Perhaps replace IMPLACABLE with PHANTOM as the freebie skill and have Implacable remain on the tree. I know this is likely completely doable on my own, but my thought is that Implacable is a significant skill and likely more balanced for Sergeant/Captain or so than as a Squaddie skill. Basically, Ranger's Shadow tree would be (Phantom free) Shadowstrike - Slinkmaster - Conceal - Implacable - Deep Cover (lol, probably would be best if this were knocked back to being early in the tree, as opposed to up against Unstoppable) - Reaper.

Thanks for the mod... Apparently, the ranger and the grenadiers weren't strong enough as they are