Pillars of Eternity

Pillars of Eternity

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Caed Nua - a guide for your haunted and cursed stronghold
By taciturn(o)
Caed Nua has a simple stronghold system, but I decided to create this guide so that new players can use it optimally and not waste any resources. It will contain: order of upgrades, one or two curiosities and some advices.
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Introduction
Caed Nua is basically a haunted mansion that you can upgrade and brag about, the system is simple enough that you will end the game with a really good Stronghold, but, perhaps, you will not do this optimally, so I'll list the order of upgrades that I think are the best to get first.
Order of upgrades and - some - explanation
1 - Eastern Barbican, this is the only mandatory upgrade.

2 - Brighthollow Restoration, it's a nice idea to be able to sleep on your own house.

3 - Main Keep, it looks good and you need it to unlock other upgrades.

4 - Merchant Stalls, get this as soon as possible, this upgrade will unlock the merchant Azzuro that visits you with some really good items.

5 - Western Barbican, in order to unlock more upgrades and to balance your prestige and defence.

6 - Bailey, to unlock more upgrades.

7 - Curio Shop, it will give you a free creature part - that are used for recipes - every stronghold turn - which is every time you complete a quest. I used this a lot on my playthrought and sometimes you will even receive rare creature parts.

8 - Botanical Garden, free herbs for every stronghold turn - Edér, Hiravias and Zahua will apreciate this.

9 - Barracks, it will make possible to buy the services of mercenaries - that can help you defend your stronghold against assaults - and will also give you a nice bonus towards security. You can leave this for number 10 if you are playing on an easier difficulty.

10 - Warden's lodge, try to get this upgrade when you hit level 7 to 10 - that depends on the difficulty you are playing and your skills as a player - because the bounties can be quite hard, but they will give you some of the best items in the game.

11 - After number 10 you should have 11 prestige and 11 security, the brighthollow upgrades are all cosmetics, so they are optional, but I don't think it's respectful for a watcher to live in a place with rats and spiders, so try to grab one or two of them before advancing on the list.

12 - You should be at level 8 or even more, the game will start to get difficult, specially if you are about to go to WM I, so make sure to get at least one of the buildings that gives you attributes bonuses. Chapel grants you bonus towards resolve, Forum to intellect, Training Grounds to might and the Towers - my favourite because your companions can lack perception on harder difficuties - gives you a nice bonus towards security, prestige and perception.

13 - The rest of the upgrades will not give you any meaningful advantages, just some minor bonuses, so try to grab anything that you are lacking, e.g.: if your party is lacking stealth you can acquire the Hedge Maze.

14 - The Dungeons really don't make any difference, so leave this for the last upgrade.
Hirelings, curiosities, quests and advices.
Hirelings:

They are basically guards that will help you with invasions and one amazing quest - "The Battle of Yenwood Field" -, they are important if you are playing for the first time on PotD - and ocassionaly on hard - so don't underestimate their importance, now, I'll list some really good hirelings and how to get them:

Korgrak: despite the prestige downgrade he is the best Hireling you can get, he gives you -6 prestige and +6 defence, he will do tremendous damage and tank a lot of hits and ocassionaly help with special guests. Make sure to hire him on the quest "A Farmer's Plight".

Crucible Knight: they will only be available if you side with the Crucible Knights - of course -, they give you +4 prestige and +2 security, on a real fight they will not help a lot but they can tank some hits.

Glanfathan Soul Hunter: this one is a special guest, make sure to hire him when he arrives, he can do some good damage and gives you +2 prestige and +3 security.

Aedyran Noblewoman: make sure to hire her, I know she can be a little expensive on the beggining of the game but on the mid to end game you will not even notice her wage, she gives you a tremendous +6 on prestige, but she will not fight alongside you.

Dunryd Psion: he gives you -2 prestige and +2 security his damage will make you happy that you hired him despite the - 2 prestige.

Addendum: except for Korgrak and Crucible Knight - because both are from quests -, the hirelings will eventually appear or reappear on your stronghold, even if they die or if you dismiss them.

Curiosities:

1 - You can actually use the dungeons to hold prisioners. Some NPCs encounters will have this option in the dialogue. After the imprisonment, if the prisoner didn't manage to escape, someone will eventually offer you some money for the NPC.

2 - There are no confirmation if security or prestige impacts the amount of attacks that your stronghold receives or the amount of gold you lose to bandits.

Stronghold Quests:

They are quite simple, you just send a custom adventurer or companion on a mission that will take stronghold turns to complete - more turns to complete = better spoils. After dispatching your chosen hero don't preoccupy yourself, they will always succeed, just stay alert towards whom you send in said missions, if you send someone that you use often, be advised that you will not be able to use that person for a while, so that is why I reccomend the usage of custom mercenaries - the ones that you can create at the inns - in said missions. For example: if you send Edér and now you have a boss to defeat, who will tank?

Advices:

1 - There are some really good loot from stronghold quests. That is why I recommend upgrading your stronghold.

2 - "The Battle of Yenwood Field" is a great quest but can be a little difficult, so make sure to have plenty of good hirelings before dispatching your army. One tip: complete WM II before starting this quest.

3 - The Adra Dragon, sadly, will not give you any prestige or security.

4 - Don't worry about the money, you will have plenty of it after you reach level 10.

5 - Punch Lord Gathbin.




25 Comments
Wasted_46 19 Nov, 2023 @ 11:21am 
I value barracks so much higher, since this is the building with the most possible prestige bonus. Since stronghold quest types are tied to your prestige level, and they are one of the truly scarce resources in the game, (you can only have a finite number of them since they are tied to your in-game progress) you want to maximize your prestige as early as possible. Also security doesn't mean anything - it will just give you more money every month which you don't need at all. I never hire the ogre.
ʕ•͡ᴥ•ʔ 11 Nov, 2023 @ 11:58pm 
At the early stage of stronghold management, wouldn't it be more cost-effective to avoid hiring Korgrak in favor of utilizing 8 commoner hirelings? They are 10c each and total up to 80c/day for a +8 prestige and +8 security. Also, you don't have enough prestige hirelings at the time to overcome the -6 from Korgrak. If you decide to go with Korgrak, he is 50c/day, combined with 6 commoner hirelings totals up to 110c/day for +2 prestige and +10 security. Losing 6 prestige to gain 2 extra security for 30 extra c per day just doesn't seem worth it to me that early in the game. I think it would be best to wait until you get the Aedyran noblewoman before using him.
taciturn(o)  [author] 1 Sep, 2022 @ 8:21am 
@Zozh
Interesting enough you can view in both ways, your character level or endless path. If you reached floor 7 and cleared it your character should also be at least level 7.
Zozh 28 Jun, 2022 @ 7:01am 
Just need to check, when you talk about level in "10 - Warden's lodge" i assume your referring to endless path levels?
Malterras 19 Apr, 2022 @ 12:45pm 
3 - The Adra Dragon, sadly, will not give you any prestige or security.

He certainly does, go back to the keep and talk to your throne after beating him. +8 to both security and prestige.
taciturn(o)  [author] 24 Jan, 2022 @ 6:49am 
@bearhiderug White March II (the second part of the expansion)
bearhiderug 23 Jan, 2022 @ 11:30pm 
what is
WMII
Cerl 13 Dec, 2020 @ 10:01pm 
" 2 - There are no confirmation if security or prestige impacts the amount of attacks that your stronghold receives or the amount of gold you lose to bandits. "

There is, actually.
Prestige increases your 'taxes' and the chance of a 'good' event occurring, such as the special hirelings showing up, rare item offers, and so on.

Security reduces the taxes lost to bandits and how often 'bad' events occur, which includes attacks as well as the random other stuff like guests being attacked on the road or kidnapped, etc.
taciturn(o)  [author] 12 Aug, 2020 @ 8:52pm 
@Poobah Gorg that is also a good reason!

@Reverend Gwyon No, he don't need to be a current party member. You can send anyone except if the person is already on a stronghold quest. The companions stay inside the Brighthollow relaxing in their rooms.
Poobah Gorg 9 Aug, 2020 @ 2:10pm 
My main reasoning for wanting the merchant's stall right after the main keep is that with a merchant there I can sell all the loot I gather in and around the keep without traveling all the way to a town. Which makes it a lot easier to build those expensive parts without spending so long outside the keep and risking not making it back in time to defend the place!