I played the Beta of Vermintide - it's absolute copy of L4D2 even the spceial infected are the same. It's p2p and no PvP though :( I play Killing Floor 2 at the moment but it's Early Access and although it's amaizing game and I have over 300 hours on it allready - I wouldn't recommend it right now. It's 1 update away from being balanced right now its a small mess - but damn fun to play. You can play as a Demolitionist with RPGs and granade launchers and during the slo mo event all explosions are Nukes - it's freaking awesome :D Also it damn good optimised on my GT750 works with capped 62 FPS on all low graphics no matter what while PD2 for example I can barely play with 30 FPS capped on Normal and Low settings. I have given up on PD2 since the hype train event and as I see from some posts it's a mess right now and I just don't wan't to take part of that whole thing. I'm happy to play co op games, and all that is happening is making me not wan'ting to install it at all ...

Speaking of 4 co-op games I keep meaning to try Verminetide but haven't got around to it for whatever reason!

From the various leaks about the Completely Overkill pack it looks like the secret reward wont reeeally be anything to miss. Might be best to just imagine it to be something better than it seems it will be. :D

woah :) well, if I ever have the 20+ hours needed to download and install it, I'll probably check it out, but seeing how great Killing Floor 2 is and Fallout 4 coming out soon I hardly think that I'll ever do that. Shame I'll never know what my Completely Overkill Pack secret item is :(

There are 195 damage pistols without mods and some shotguns do 23 damage. It's a bit weird and all over the place.. D:

Woah that game has changed. Is the weapons rebalance really that bad? My friedns are all complaining about that ...