PAYDAY 2

PAYDAY 2

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[OUTDATED] The Counter-Terrorist Build (No DLC needed)
By Takku
A full-featured, alternative build relying on (all) Mastermind Tier 6 skills, silenced weapons and your skill. It works on Overkill and even on Death Wish with little to no DLC requirements (including Hoxton Breakout, Hotline Miami and potentially endless amounts of bags in Cook Off and White Xmas). Inspired by the infamous game called Counter-Strike which you may have heard of.
   
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Introduction
Idea
So basically... you're playing Counter-Strike as a Counter-Terrorist (M4 & USP), but you're regenerating health, picking up ammo, taking prisoners and fighting off potentially limitless amounts of... well, cops. Also, you're stealing things or comitting other crimes, but hey! The modding community is making great progress, so maybe you'll get a more authentic Counter-Strike feeling in the future. :P
Also, you don't have a crosshair but a laser attached to your weapon, and you can use ironsights/scope using the right mouse button, but maybe you always wanted to do that in Counter-Strike anyway, and were annoyed when you found out you couldn't?

Requirements
- At least Infamy 3 (The Assassin Set & Set of the Corrupted)
- Level 100 highly recommended
- Quite a few weapon mods (go farm them)

Pros
- Carry your team (Inspire)
- High sustain (Hostage Taker)
- Save the day (Pistol Messiah)
- Huge number of weapons to choose from (depending on owned DLCs)
- Can use pretty much any perk deck
- Works on Death Wish (guns easily hit for 47 damage)

Cons
- Little (alternative build) to no (main build) dodge except Sprinter
- Flashbangs are painful (possible to avoid in the alternative build)
- Shields are annoying (unless you're sniping or using HE Judge)
- Only one deployable (you can't take more than one with you anyway, to be fair)
- Requires skill (not a real con imo)
- No Transporter (painful on bag-heavy missions)

Recommended Mods
Hawk's near complete Sound Pack
Words can't describe how much better the game is with this sound pack, and it really adds to the Counter-Strike feeling. Download here[forums.lastbullet.net].
Authentic Silent Assassin Leather Gloves
Latex Gloves on a Counter-Terrorist? Blue ones, even? No way! Download here[forums.lastbullet.net].
New Blood Decals
Does what it says on the tin: way better blood decals! Download here[forums.lastbullet.net].

Recommended DLC
Note: None of this is required, all sections have DLC-free options!
- Gage Mod Courier (mods, mostly for the CAR-4)
- Gage Sniper Pack (pretty much all of them)
- Gage Shotgun Pack (HE Rounds, if using The Judge)
- Gage Historical Pack (Patchett L2A1, if using the alternative SMG Build)
It is worth mentioning that the Gage Historical Pack has a sniper rifle as well, even though it's inferior to the R93, which is exclusive to the Gage Sniper Pack. See my full DLC guide here.
Skill Build
Recommended Build: Pistol Messiah
Armor: any
Perk Deck: variable
Skills: http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mQRSOLhIJCDa:gPMhIECDa:ibea::w10-37-45-28-1-23-47-17-46-58:s26-2-19-13-10:

Alternative Build: Dodge & SMGs
Armor: Lightweight Ballistic Vest
Perk Deck: Crook
Skills: http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mQSnLhJeGbCDa:eEDa:gPMhJECDa:fEDa:ibea:pO8::w10-37-45-28-1-23-47-17-46-58:s62-1-3-17-36-11-38:a3
Primary Weapon
Recommended: CAR-4 Rifle (aka M4A1-S)
Barrel: Long Barrel
Barrel Ext: The Bigger the Better Suppressor
Custom: none*
Foregrip: Gazelle Rail**
Gadget: LED Combo
Grip: Pro Grip
Lower Receiver: none
Magazine: none***
Sight: none****
Stock: War-Torn Stock**
Upper Receiver: Exotique Receiver

* You should use Auto Fire for Death Wish only. Requires GWP#01.
** Requires Gage Mod Courier.
*** You probably should use the CAR Quadstacked Mag, but it's not true to the Counter-Terrorist experience.
**** And I suppose the same goes for the sight (my fav. is Solar Sight with Dot 2 reticle).

No DLC? AMR-16 Rifle! (aka M16A1-S)
Barrel: Long Barrel
Barrel Ext: The Bigger the Better Suppressor
Custom: none
Foregrip: none*
Gadget: LED Combo
Grip: Pro Grip
Lower Receiver: none
Magazine: Milspec Mag.
Sight: none**
Stock: none***
Upper Receiver: Exotique Receiver

* You can use any Foregrip you want but the default one is the closest to Counter-Strike's in appearance.
** You probably want to use a Sight anyway, but again, Counter-Strike only has iron sights for most rifles.
*** I'd prefer the Wide Stock for looks but it requires Gage Mod Courier, while the default one obviously doesn't.

Alternative Rifles
Most other decent rifles will work with this build. If you're looking for something Counter-Strike-esque, you'll probably try out the AKs, the Clarion (Famas), the UAR Rifle (Steyr Aug) or the Gecko 7.62 (Galil). Sadly, none of them are as good as a CAR-4 or AMR-16 in my opinion.
The Commando 553 comes close and is also featured in Counter-Strike (SG 552), but only on Overkill.

... or be the Camper (Sniper)!
I can wholeheartedly recommend any sniper rilfe with this build, as this will fix your issues with shields if you're running with a lobby full of bad pubs (unless you go for HE Judge instead of Interceptor). With silencers, they work just like they would without them in this build.
The only drawback is that none of them look like a Scout or an AWP unless you're into modding your game.
Secondary Weapon
Recommended: Interceptor 45 Pistol (aka USP-S)
Barrel Ext: Standard Issue Suppressor*
Gadget: Combined Module
Magazine: none**
Sight: none***
Slide: Match Slide

* This is recommended for the full Counter-Terrorist experience, but only works well on Overkill (as does any other suppressor except for the Size Doesn't Matter one). For Death Wish, you should either use the Jungle Ninja or the Asepsis one, the latter being more consistent with the Counter-Terrorist experience.
** You should probably use Extended Mag., but such a thing doesn't exist in CS.
*** You can use Pistol Red Dot Sight but it would deviate from the true Counter-Terrorist experience.

Alternative Pistols
The Deagle Pistol comes to mind when thinking of Counter-Strike, quite obviously. The same goes for the Chimanos since they're Glocks, and all of them work on Death Wish even, except for the Chimano 88 that only works on Overkill. On the other hand, though, none of them have silencers in Counter-Strike. The truth is, a lot of pistols work with this build, the best one being the Gruber Kurz.

... or just use The Judge
The Judge works incredibly well against shields if you're using HE Rounds, and it will stun Bulldozers for you. This is awesome utility on both Overkill and Death Wish, but in that case it doesn't make any sense to go with Gunslinger aced anymore. It's better to rely on your teammates or bring a Sniper Rifle for your primary in my opinion.
Yes, neither The Judge nor HE Rounds appear in CS, but then again neither do shields (at least not in the latest CS games).

Alternative SMG Build: Patchett L2A1*
Barrel: Long Barrel
Barrel Ext: The Bigger the Better Suppressor
Custom: none
Gadget: LED Combo
Magazine: Extended Mag
Sight: none**
Stock: Solid Stock

* Requires Gage Historical Pack. Sadly, no other silenced SMG is decent enough.
** As with all guns, you can obviously use any sight you want.
Melee Weapon
Melee isn't too important in this build, although it can help when trying to dominate a cop. The Lucille Baseball Bat has the highest knockdown value in the game so it's probably the best choice, but as a Counter-Terrorist you should use a knife, right?
For that reason, I recommend the Ursa Tanto Knife (because it's free and has a military feel, unlike the Psycho Knife). You can headshot a TAN with one of your guns and melee him about 5 times with it (unless you're sniping of course) before he dies.
The Mask
GIGN - or - Winning Team Joiner
Balaclava (Infamy Reward)

GSG-9 Helmet
The Hard Hat (Achievement: I'm An Avenger!) with Jungle Camo material (Gage Weapon Pack #02)

S.A.S. Gas Mask
The Gas Mask (Achievement: Stick a Fork in Me, I'm Done)

Generic CT
Alpha Force (Gage Weapon Pack #02)

SpecOps High-Tech Ninja
The Spectre (Infamy Reward)

Maximum Swag
The Death Wish Skull (Achievement: OVERKILL Salutes You!)
9 Comments
♡⛧Kuroteshima⛧♡ 1 Apr, 2018 @ 6:26am 
when is this good build gonna get updated?
Takku  [author] 1 Jul, 2017 @ 1:16pm 
What? You can spec whatever you want but for now the guide is still outdated seeing how it was written 2 years ago and mentions skills that have been removed, renamed or otherweise modified. Like I said earlier, the weapon configurations are also outdated - there's better options and they are no longer recommendable for DW or OD.
♡⛧Kuroteshima⛧♡ 1 Jul, 2017 @ 12:46pm 
well you can just get inspire messiah and all the pro skills and then just grab anything else u want
Takku  [author] 1 Jul, 2017 @ 12:29pm 
The skill builds are from before there was a rework, so the builds you see when clicking the links are complete nonsense. The weapon configurations are also from before a certain weapon balancing update (the one that introduced weapon skins) so they are most likely dated as well.
♡⛧Kuroteshima⛧♡ 1 Jul, 2017 @ 11:57am 
why is this outdated?
teasny 13 Dec, 2015 @ 6:01am 
Well,tk,I reccomend another secondary,Siganature 40. Pistol looks like the p250.
Mikey 12 May, 2015 @ 5:12am 
dat "Maximum swag" mask
Takku  [author] 6 May, 2015 @ 5:06am 
Well, it lets you beat Death Wish without DLC weaponry, so that's a few achievements. :p
I suppose it's not a dedicated achievement guide though, maybe I'll fix it if I feel like it.
Trobby 6 May, 2015 @ 5:01am 
Why is this in the achievements catagory?