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Awesome, thank you! I managed to figure it out on my own in the end, just the wording "go back to Mastema" in many of the guides online confused me. My first thought was going back to the non-existant Serpent's Grave leyline postgame, as I had not found and completed the quest with Samael. Visiting that specific place in Shinjuku may not be as fresh a memory for everyone.
Oh boy, Satan made me rethink that choice of Hard difficulty, not sure I can take him down. Love the look of Megido Ark in full 3D though!
So if you want to fight Satan in CoV without having to start all over again you'll have to do the following:
-Get either ending, naturally.
-Create a Clear Game save file after the credits, but keep a save file from before you fought Lucifer.
-Reload the save file before Lucifer.
-Speak to Mastema, all he does is check if you defeated Lucifer on another save file, and Samael on the current one.
-You should then get the quest to fight Satan, so after him you'll be able to get Godborn as a selection when starting your second playthrough.
Thank YOU for an excellent and much needed guide, and for reading and responding to feedback.
Just another pondering; starting out with Canon of Vengeance, would that make it so Satan won't become accessible until my third playthrough, assuming I'd do Canon of Creation next? Big SMT4 Apocalypse fan here, and was kinda hyped hearing about the guy being a superboss. Worst case, at least I'd get to fight Masakado on 2nd run? Sucks getting no Godborn until that late however.
I've just looked around, it appears that both Inheritance Violation and Rank Violation miracles are unlocked in CoV at the Empyrean once you are locked on an ending.
The "Playthrough order for all endings and achievements" section has been updated. Thanks for bringing your experience up and good luck on Hard difficulty.
You're absolutely correct that doing a Chaos playthrough will benefit the player more compared to a Law playthrough if done first. To be honest I forgot about some miracles being alignment-exclusive since I unlocked the first one 100+ hours before I was done with the game.
The "Playthrough order for all endings and achievements" section has been updated.
By the way, just in case it wasn't known, the alignment-exclusive miracles can be unlocked on either Canon. I got the Rank Violation miracle on my first CoV playthrough, which was Law-aligned.
Also, you can do the side quests to unlock either Belial or Michael on any playthrough, regardless of alignment. The only difference is that if you're on the opposite alignment of who you side with, you have to give the quest giver 666,000 Macca to start the quest. I can't remember if you have to give a lesser amount or nothing at all if you're neutral.
I advice Creation first because you will know the basic of the game's story, later Vengeance will complete the Creation story, also it makes sense you unlock godborn on your 3rd playthrough, just enjoy the story first then you can do harder difficulty later, also virtual battle exist especially the elite ones
The only thing that you may consider as a "difficulty level" is being on Godborn mode and getting an achievement for reaching an ending in it. But since you can still be on Casual or even Safety difficulty while Godborn is active, the overall difficulty is pretty low. It's just that the attack numbers are bigger.
I may be misremembering but I do believe every single boss, for each specific fight, has two data sets. One is for their normal level, thus normal status and moveset, and another for Godborn mode, so level 150 stats and potentially alternate moveset. It's just an additional entry in your boss database so it ultimately doesn't matter but wanted to bring that up anyway.
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Nope. The only things that carries over between playthroughs are;
-The usual NG+ stuff (exp, money, party, etc), unless selecting Newborn mode when starting subsequent a playthrough.
-Unlocked virtual training missions for alignment/Canon-exclusive bosses, which can be attempted on any playthrough (any alignment, any Canon) so long as you have reached the end of the first region on the current playthrough. You can do boss rematches on any difficulty level than when you beat it the first time if you really want.
-Icons on your save file that indicate which endings you've reached. There is no indication of such icons until you get your first ending, then the remaining five will have empty spaces reserved for them.
-Data for bosses you've beaten previously on any playthrough, that you can view in the pause menu at any time if you're curious about that.
Nothing in terms of carryover and achievements are influenced by your difficulty level AKA Casual or Hard.
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Any save file differences between finishing a route in hard vs not hard?
Maybe ending icon, or maybe any historical data or previous runs (visible or invisible)