China: Mao's legacy

China: Mao's legacy

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Subsystems Guide
By SagyVakunov
A guide to the available ideologies
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Introduction

China: Mao's Legacy has several ideological subsystems available for the player, as it allows to take several alternative paths and modify China's internal politics freely. I figured some would have a better experience if they knew how to put some specific politics they prefer into practice, so I decided to make this guide.
Note that the requirements for some subsystems tend to be very specific, and having certain leaders or modifiers can change the player's given subsystem.
Authoritarian Subsystems

  • Neopatrimonialism: Don't fulfill the requirements for other authoritarian subsystems. (i.e., fulfill the requirements for Protofascism while having the Stronghold of Maoism modifier)

  • Protofascism: One Party, Mixed Economy/Minimum Intervention, Fighting Dissent, Reliance on Traditions/Concordat, Unitary, Full Militarization. Do not have the Stronghold of Maoism modifier. Nowadays Worldview* above 70.

  • Right Dictatorship: One Party, Mixed Economy/Minimum Regulation, Fighting Dissent, Fight Against Traditionalism/Reliance on Traditions/Concordat, Unitary, Full Militarization/Building Up/Contract Army. Do not have the Stronghold of Maoism modifier. Nowadays Worldview below 70.

  • Feudal Socialism: Needs Bombard The Headquarters DLC; support Pol Pot's Kampuchea, make them **win** the war against Vietnam, ban all factions minus Left Radicals, take the decision to reject the proletariat. Any change in doctrines will make you something else

  • Left Wing Nationalism: Left Radical doctrines (Soviet Planned/Automated Plan, Full Militarization/Building Up) + Stronghold of Maoism modifier, Diplomatic Reputation below 70, Nowadays Worldview above 70

  • Left Radicalism: Left Radical doctrines (Soviet Planned/Automated Plan, Full Militarization/Building Up) + Stronghold of Maoism modifier and Left Radical/Moderate at the head of China, Diplomatic Reputation above 70.
*Nowadays Worldview can be raised by having Left Radicals and Chinophilics in the posts of Premier and Chairman of Military Council (CMC). A good candidate for this is Mao Yuanxin or Huang Hua.
Socialist Subsystems

  • Conservative Socialism: State system is Conservative Socialism*, the requirements for Leninism or Trotskyism are not met.

  • Leninism: State system is Conservative Socialism, do not have the Stronghold of Maoism modifier.

  • Trotskyism: Needs Fallen Eagle DLC. Support trotskyists in the UK, make them win the elections, abandon Maoism. Join the 4th International. Once you do, as long as you have a socialist state system (even if you become reformist for a while), you'll be a dirty trot. But a badass dirty trot with lots of agents.

  • State Socialism: State system is Chinese Socialism, the requirements for other subsystems are not met.
*This state system can be acquired by having mostly Left Radical/Conservative doctrines with One Party/New Democracy and Soviet Planned/Automated Plan
Reformist Subsystems

  • Titoism: State system is Dengism, the territorial doctrine is Confederacy.

  • Democratic Socialism: Economy to the left of Mixed Economy. Do not fulfill the requirements for socialist, authoritarian, or other reformist subsystems.

  • Red Tory: State system is Dengism, the economic doctrine is Birdcage/Mixed Economy. Nowadays Worldview is above 70 and the requirements for Eurocommunism or Protofascism are not met.

  • Political Pragmatism: Economy to the left of Minimum Intervention, do not fulfill the requirements for any other subsystem. Alternatively, Economy to the left of Mixed Economy and Religion to the right of Secularism, Gaddafi style.

  • Eurocommunism: Birdcage/Mixed Economy, Limited Multiparty System. Moderate/Reformist doctrines such as Small Control/Full Liberalization, Support of Atheism/Supervision of Beliefs/Secularism, Federation and Defensive/Contract Army. Diplomatic reputation below 70.
Liberal Subsystems

  • Social Democracy: State system is Social Democracy, State Capitalism/Birdcage economic doctrine. Diplomatic Reputation above 50.

  • Centrism: State system is Social Democracy or Liberalism, State Capitalism/Birdcage economic doctrine, Diplomatic Reputation is below 70. Can also be acquired with more market economies if Diplomatic Reputation is above 70.

  • Liberalism: State system is Social Democracy or Liberalism, Birdcage-Minimum Regulation economic doctrine.

  • Neoliberalism: State system is Social Democracy or Liberalism, State Capitalism-Minimum Regulation economic doctrine, Nowadays Worldview above 70.
25 Comments
The Rose With Many Thorns 16 Sep, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
Yes this appears to be an alternative to get Neoliberalism, though you can get it with a market economy.

So, Liberal/Reformist doctrines + Limited Multiparty + Small Control + State Capitalism or Market Economy + below 50 Diplomatic Reputation, otherwise other liberal subsystem
Disdaimonia 11 Sep, 2024 @ 6:30pm 
I've found that with Neoliberalism you need the following:
Parties doctrine no more liberal than Limited Multiparty
Civil Rights doctrine no more liberal than Small Control
If the Economy doctrine is to the left of Mixed Economy then Diplomatic Reputation must be less than or equal to 50
All other doctrines should be as liberal as necessary for the other liberal subsystems

I didn't need Nowadays Worldview above 70 to get this
SagyVakunov  [author] 1 Aug, 2024 @ 9:53pm 
It's not impossible. I got it several times. It's easier with a Birdcage economy and keeping religious doctrines away from secularism.
Rukas Bronte 30 Jul, 2024 @ 11:46pm 
I've been trying to get Eurocommunism, but it always switches to Social Democracy. Is there something I'm missing, is it just impossible to be Eurocommunist?
Galiotes 18 Jan, 2024 @ 11:39am 
I think you just need conservative socialism and no stronghold, nationalism and diplomacy does not affect it
The Rose With Many Thorns 7 Jan, 2024 @ 2:26pm 
I've tried fulfilling your Leninism Doctrine recommendations with all Nowadays Worldview types, I even lowered the diplomatic reputation below 70 and joined CMEA and WTO to be sure and it still had Conservative Socialism as the Subsystem.
SagyVakunov  [author] 7 Jan, 2024 @ 1:30pm 
Now this is strange! I am certain Leninism is fully compatible with the Stronghold of Maoism modifier. Have you tried with cosmopolitanism as Nowadays Wolrdview?
The Rose With Many Thorns 6 Jan, 2024 @ 3:24pm 
Social Democracy is correct that you need to have social democracy/liberalism as the state system and have state capitalism/birds cage as the economy type, but it seems you need to have your diplomatic reputation to be at least 50 and a Nowadays Worldview below 70.

For Conservative Socialism you don't need a authoritarian party line. You just need to have Conservative Socialism as the state system without fulling the prerequisites for any other subsystem. E.g. I fulfilled the doctrine requirements for Leninism you recommended in one playthrough and it gave me Conservative Socialism as the subsystem because apparently I had not "debunked" Maoism to get rid of the stronghold of Maoism modifier and rehabilitated Wang Ming, furthermore the party line drifted to Harsh while the state system was Conservative Socialism the whole time.
The Rose With Many Thorns 6 Jan, 2024 @ 3:23pm 
Centrism is correct that you need to have social democracy/liberalism as the state system, but you can get it both through both a state capitalist and market economy depending on your diplomatic reputation and Nowadays Worldview. With a State capitalist economy your diplomatic reputation and Nowadays Worldview are both below 70. When you market economy your diplomatic needs to be above 70 and your Nowadays Worldview needs to be below 70.

Liberalism is correct that you need to have social democracy/liberalism state system, but you need to have a market economy and both your diplomatic reputation and Nowadays Worldview need to be below 70.

Neoliberalism is correct that you need to have social democracy/liberalism as your state system, but you need to have a market or state capitalist economy and your Nowadays Worldview needs to be above 70.
The Rose With Many Thorns 6 Jan, 2024 @ 3:23pm 
I have a few observations I'd like to contribute to the guide.