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Class Stat Progression / Max Leadership Required

By Tommy

Starting stats and stat progression for all classes. Maximum leadership required to reach unit cap for all units.

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Guide Index

Overview

Disclaimer

Alignment

Max Alignment increases

Talents

Stats: Aivar (Warrior)

Stats: Katharine (Mage)

Stats: Elisa (Paladin)

Shrine bonuses

Order Units - Max Leadership Required

Power Units - Max Leadership Required

Anarchy Units - Max Leadership Required

Finesse Units - Max Leadership Required

Conclusions

Comments

Disclaimer

I have started the game yesterday with all 3 classes in parallel and tracked the stat progression. I only played the first few levels. Based on the data I got, I tried to calculate the class base stats on level 30 (levelcap). I will update the guide if the stats per levelup change. Feel free to post your levelup stats in the comments to confirm if the calculation is correct or give me data for updating the guide.

Update 2021-08-26:
I removed the sections "Stat gains per levelup" and "Expected Level 30 base stats" as leadership gains on my playthrough didn't match the expectation. I also haven't found the pattern yet. I will still add my stat gains from playing.

Update 2021-08-30
- "Stats" sections updated: added level 30 stats for all classes
- "Units" sections updated: added missing recruitable units (including preorder and lord edition only units), updated wrong stack sizes, sorted them by max leadership required
- added section "Max Alignment increases"
- added section "Shrine bonuses"
- added section "Conclusions"

Special thanks to Jo, Tomipapa, Ido Panski and other contributers for their input.

Alignment

Aivar (Warrior):

3 Power
seems to be locked into Power quest solutions (at least in the beginning)

Katharine (Mage):

3 Finesse
seems to be locked into Finesse quest solutions (at least in the beginning)

Elisa (Paladin):

3 Order
seems to be locked into Order quest solutions (at least in the beginning)

Max Alignment increases

Order/Anarchy: 39 points can be gained
Power/Finesse: 39 points can be gained
gained alignment points for quest decisions are always the same for both outcomes
side quests usually give +1 or +2 alignment points
main quests usually give +3 or +5 alignement points
to be able to hit the exact threshhold for unlocking the next tier of talents and not wasting alignment points it might be a good idea to leave some side quests unfinished
if the discrepancy between in current alignment points between opposing alignments is to big you can be locked decisions for some quests

Talents

Starting talents can not be changed with the respec feature.

Aivar (Warrior):

Pratice
Battle Prepartion
Retribution
Power Balance

Katharine (Mage):

Magic of Air and Fire
Magic of Earth and Ice
Insidious Maneuver
Finesse Balance

Elisa (Paladin):

Phantasmal Armor
Protection
Magic of Life and Light
Order Balance

Stats: Aivar (Warrior)

Stat progression:

Level 1: 460 Leadership, 2 Warfare, 1 Magic Power, 1 Arcane Knowledge
Level 2: +90 Leadership (550), +2 Warfare
Level 3: +100 Leadership (650), +2 Warfare
Level 4: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 5: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 6: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 7: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 8: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 9: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 10: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 11: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 12: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 13: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 14: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 15: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 16: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 17: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 18: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 19: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 20: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 21: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 22: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 23: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 24: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 25: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 26: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 27: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 28: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 29: +x Leadership (?), +2 Warfare
Level 30: +x Leadership (4920), +2 Warfare

Level 30 stats: 4920 Leadership, 60 Warfare, 1 Magic Power, 1 Arcane Knowledge

Stats: Katharine (Mage)

Stat progression:

Level 1: 450 Leadership, 1 Warfare, 2 Magic power, 4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 2: +70 Leadership (520), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 3: +70 Leadership (590), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 4: +80 Leadership (670), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 5: +90 Leadership (760), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 6: +90 Leadership (850), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 7: +90 Leadership (940), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 8: +100 Leadership (1040), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 9: +100 Leadership (1140), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 10: +100 Leadership (1240), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 11: +110 Leadership (1350), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 12: +120 Leadership (1470), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 13: +120 Leadership (1590), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 14: +120 Leadership (1710), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 15: +130 Leadership (1840), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 16: +140 Leadership (1980), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 17: +140 Leadership (2120), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 18: +140 Leadership (2260), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 19: +150 Leadership (2410), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 20: +150 Leadership (2560), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 21: +150 Leadership (2710), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 22: +170 Leadership (2880), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 23: +170 Leadership (3050), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 24: +170 Leadership (3220), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 25: +180 Leadership (3400), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 26: +170 Leadership (3570), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 27: +190 Leadership (3760), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 28: +190 Leadership (3950), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 29: +190 Leadership (4140), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge
Level 30: +200 Leadership (4340), +2 Magic Power, +4 Arcane Knowledge

Level 30 stats: 4340 Leadership, 1 Warfare, 60 Magic Power, 120 Arcane Knowledge

Stats: Elisa (Paladin)

Stat progression:

Level 1: 470 Leadership , 1 Warfare, 1 Magic Power, 2 Arcane Knowledge.
Level 2: +110 Leadership (580), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 3: +120 Leadership (700), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 4: +120 Leadership (820), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 5: +120 Leadership (960), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 6: +130 Leadership (1070), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 7: +130 Leadership (1200), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 8: +140 Leadership (1340), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 9: +140 Leadership (1480), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 10: +150 Leadership (1630), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 11: +150 Leadership (1780), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 12: +160 Leadership (1940), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 13: +160 Leadership (2100), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 14: +160 Leadership (2260), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 15: +170 Leadership (2430), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 16: +170 Leadership (2600), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 17: +180 Leadership (2780), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 18: +180 Leadership (2960), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 19: +190 Leadership (3150), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 20: +190 Leadership (3340), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 21: +200 Leadership (3540), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 22: +200 Leadership (3740), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 23: +210 Leadership (3950), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 24: +210 Leadership (4160), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 25: +210 Leadership (4370), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 26: +220 Leadership (4590), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 27: +220 Leadership (4810), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 28: +230 Leadership (5040), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 29: +230 Leadership (5270), +2 Arcane Knowledge
Level 30: +240 Leadership (5510), +2 Arcane Knowledge

Level 30 stats: 5510 Leadership, 1 Warfare, 1 Magic Power, 60 Arcane Knowledge

Shrine bonuses

Leadership

+60 Leadership, Location: swamp area
+60 Leadership, Location: field south of refugee camp
+70 Leadership, Location: Cedric's hideout
+70 Leadership, Location:
+70 Leadership, Location:
+70 Leadership, Location:

Total amount: 400

Arcane Knowledge

+5 Arcane Knowledge, Location: Dupont Estate
+5 Arcane Knowledge, Location: somewhere south of the fair if i recall right
+5 Arcane Knowledge, Location: north of Folster
+5 Arcane Knowledge, Location:
+5 Arcane Knowledge, Location:
+5 Arcane Knowledge, Location:

Total amount: 30

Warfare

+1 Warfare, Location:
+1 Warfare, Location:
+1 Warfare, Location:
+1 Warfare, Location:

Total amount: 4

Magic Power

+1 Magic Power, Location:
+1 Magic Power, Location:
+1 Magic Power, Location:

Total amount: 3

Order Units - Max Leadership Required

Unit

Leadership cost

Unit cap

Max Leadership required

Dogs Of War

150

1200

King's Watchdogs

160

1280

Spearmen

130

1300

Archers

140

1400

Healers

140

1400

Spirits Of Light

460

2300

Swordsmen

240

2400

Crossbowmen

240

2400

Disciples

510

3060

Knights

440

3520

Cavalrymen

1160

4640

Royal Mages

1600

4800

Celestial Warriors

1900

7600

Power Units - Max Leadership Required

Unit

Leadership cost

Unit cap

Max Leadership required

Wolves

140

1120

Trolls

680

2040

Eagles

460

2300

Militiamen

240

2400

Heavy Crossbowmen

260

2600

Bears

530

2650

Flaming Eagles

550

2750

Gryphons

1100

3300

Housecarls

360

3600

Stoneskin Trolls

1200

3600

Ancient Wolves

1140

4560

Flamethrowers

450

3600

Berserkers

690

4140

Bear Riders

1200

4800

Troll Chiefs

1600

4800

Red Dragon

5700

Anarchy Units - Max Leadership Required

Unit

Leadership cost

Unit cap

Max Leadership required

Ghouls

110

880

Skeletons

120

1200

Brigands

120

1200

Raiders

480

1920

Zombie

200

2000

Skeleton Archers

220

2200

Dark Spirits

480

2400

Free Archers

280

2800

Mercenaries

720

2880

Ancient Ghouls

540

3240

Assassins

460

3680

Ghosts

690

4140

Dark Adepts

1600

4800

Death Knights

1000

5000

Bone Dragon

5400

Finesse Units - Max Leadership Required

Unit

Leadership cost

Unit cap

Max Leadership required

Clay Golem

200

1200

Wind Spirit

450

2250

Stone Elementals

760

2280

Iron Golem

400

2400

Fire Elementals

1200

3600

Ice Elementals

1320

3960

Gargoyle

1020

4080

Sentry Golem

1440

4320

Firehand Golems

1520

4560

Chimeras

2500

7500

Conclusions

Leadership / Army

only the Paladin class can use max stack Celestial Warriors (7600) and Chimeras (7500), but this requires gettiing all leadership shrine bonuses (400), Glory III talent (500) and most of the equipment with leadership bonuses
Paladin can use the rings from Duke Maximum 's Charms (+15 resists, -300 leadership) and Leathercollar (+3 armor, +3 resists, -100 leadership) and still have enough leadership for the Red Dragon (5700) => 5510+500+400-300-300-100=5710
Warrior needs all leadership shrine bonuses (400) and Glory III talent (500) to use the Red Dragon (5700) without having to rely on leadership bonuses on equipment
Mage needs all leadership shrine bonuses (400) and Glory III talent (500) and leadership bonuses on equipment to use the Red Dragon (5700)

Talents/Alignments

possible splits for unlocking talent tiers can be 28/8 or 16/16 for opposing alignments
with class starting points max split is 28/15, so its impossible to reach 28/16
to be able to use the highest tier talent you need to max all talents in the lower tier, as these may be useless it might be better to go for 16/16 instead of 28/8
for example the Paladin would benefit from double buffs for her army via the Supreme Magic talent, but this would require to max out the talents Bookworm, Elemental Rage, Secret Advantage and Summoning, which are mostly useless for an troop driven playstyle

41 Comments

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KingRider 12 Aug, 2024 @ 6:06pm

What is a idea talent aivar? same paladin?

hero_of_shapeir 4 Dec, 2023 @ 12:38pm

This thread helped me quite a lot, so first off, thank you.

I went looking online for help after discovering that the trophies "Servant of Arek" and "Warrior of Maktis" are impossible to complete on Katharine because she starts with spells in those books. I loaded a save from a completed run on Elisa where I had gone full Power, no Finesse, and found I lacked the stats needed. Thanks to this guide, I realized I had missed an arcane shrine somewhere, and that little bit of difference was enough to learn the final spells.

In addition to the arcane knowledge locations listed - Dupont Estate, South of Fair, North of Folster, you can find them: southwest of the brigand camp, behind a farm only accessible late in the game (the bridge will be broken initially); just east of the brigand camp, where you first meet Brand; and finally, where you encounter the first Scryer battle, east of the capitol (not sure if it's accessible until after you've removed the corruption).

Xelian 25 Nov, 2023 @ 2:59pm

Something which may be worth adding. You can get to 28/16 (op have missed a quest I think or was bugged when he did the guide). The problem is that you have to be very careful in the managment of this beucase as soon as you go over 20 you are locked into that path choice. Not sure how worth this is as you will lock yourself from many choices until very late game

Maverick 8 Feb, 2023 @ 7:16pm

Thank you so much for this guide Tommy! I scoured google trying to find info like till I finally came across your guide! The leadership conclusion was most helpful! Thanks again!

Ultimate Despair 2 Jan, 2023 @ 11:18am

The Refugee Camp quest starts with 2 possible routes (anarchy/ order). Both of these split into some side quests that reward more of the same points. Once you make the final choice of either side, the other path disappears and you you cant get both rewards. But you get more rewards in total if you complete the side quests of both paths, including anarchy/ order.

It's possible there's more quests like this later in the game.

OwlRaider 27 Dec, 2022 @ 11:16pm

Just finished the game as Katharina and I don't recall ever seeing Firehand Golems anywhere. Are these units actually in the game(in the latest version) and if so where?

Jo 18 Feb, 2022 @ 3:17pm

In the latest patch notes, the devs mentioned altering the stats progression. Does that mean all the info here would require revision?

vagush02 2 Sep, 2021 @ 1:03pm

@Tommy Certainly possible too, it would be hard indeed, just felt obliged to point it out anyway just for the heck of it.

Tommy [author] 2 Sep, 2021 @ 11:43am

@vagush02
Ah interesting. I did all the quests and only got 39 power/finesse points, so somehow you got 2 extra point. Maybe there are quests where the rewarded points are not equal for both solutions. But I think even if 28/16 is possible, it would be hard to utilize this as you need so many talent points to reach the higher tiers.

vagush02 2 Sep, 2021 @ 10:51am

Power\finesse *

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