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Why Penny Fox isn't Pay2Win

By Surtr Logi

Penny didn't cause as much rage as Ted McPain, however some users out there are still calling her Pay2Win, just like my last guide, I will be talking about how to counter her and such, additionally this guide will be written in the same way as my guide.

Rude as f*ck.

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Guide Index

Overview

Who is Penny Fox?

Complaints from players

Questions you might ask!

Comments

Who is Penny Fox?

Penny is the 2nd Starstorm naut, she is a close range brawler who is useless at long range (gee this sounds familiar) she was introduced into the 2.3 patch.

Like Alya and Swiggins she has a melee attack, however like swiggins she has the ability to change the attack into a projectile thanks to an upgrade.

Her two abilities Claw pounce and Foxy pulse are very similar to other character's attacks.

Claw Pounce is similar to Froggy G's splash dash.
Foxy Pulse is similar to Coco's lighting ball but larger and doesn't go nearly as far.

However she requires charges, to get a charge she must attack an enemy with her melee attack only, the more charges, the more powerful she is.

Lets get started with some complaints!

Complaints from players

SHE IS SO FAST! I CAN'T DODGE HER!

Well she is supposed to be fast, without her speed she is nearly useless and nearly every build I have seen with her USES boots and all other upgrades that increase speed. Like Clunk a lot of people NEED boots with her, however unlike Clunk who actually needs boots because he is slow as sh*t, foxy's boots has a bonus which grants quad jumps, again very useful and even you played Foxy yourself, you want this upgrade its soooooooooo good.

HER JUMPS ARE SO ANNOYING! SHE KEEPS DODGING MY ATTACKS!

Again, she needs the jumps because she will be useless without them, basically she is like a Ninja, jumping and dealing massive damage and escaping again, a lot like Froggy G.

SHE HAS NO COUNTERS AT ALL!

Try this magical thing called Snare, Slows and Stuns, like Froggy G and Leon she is stupidly vulnerable in this stage and I killed many Foxys thanks to Stuns and Snares.

However Clunk players beware, Foxy counters Clunk really hard, unless you have the snare upgrade, your gonna have a bad time.

(like my friend, it was so funny)

Also Genji's coccon with life steal and do damage also is annoying to foxy, however I don't see a lot of people use this combo.

And Derpl is jolly good fun against a Foxy.

SO MANY FOXYS! WHY!?!?!?!

Well she IS the most recent naut during the making of this guide soooooo....

No sh*t everyone plays as her, SHES NEW! SOMETHING NEW! honestly people figure it out yourselves!

WOW SHE DOES TOO MUCH DAMAGE!

She is a BURST damage character, letting out all out her damage at once! Stay out of range if you want to becareful, also her Pounce attack has upgrade which means that when she attacks someone with 4 charges she gets to keep one instead of losing them all, Foxy pulse doesn't have an upgrade like this.

Also most Foxys like to do a combo, aka Pounce then Pulse, it does a lot of damage.

SHE IS INVINCIBLE DURING HER POUNCE! WHY!? *THIS COMPLAINT IS OUTDATED, HOWEVER IT WILL STAY ON THIS GUIDE IN CASE RONIMO REVERTS THE CHANGE*

She shares this with Froggy G, they have it for two main reasons.

1. Is to clear Yuri's mines and Ted's grenades.
2. If they didn't have this, they would be near useless and everytime they use pounce/dive they will pretty much die.

When your playing against a Yuri, be praying to the gods you will have Foxy or Froggy or all of your pushing power will be bombed away by a Sputnik Monkey.

HER PULSE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GOES THROUGH WALLS!?!?!?!?! WHY!

Many attacks go through walls, like Ayla's rage bubble, Clunks Explosion, Voltar's heal drone (when it gets the damage upgrade THEN its a threat), Skølldir's throw, Coco's lighting ball and more.

Just because the new guy can attack through walls, doesn't mean he/she MUST be sh*tted all over by ragers and must be nerfed.

However I'll admit she has some Balance issues.

Scout Binoculars, which increase Pulse's range are too good, they need to be nerfed, all the other upgrades are good, but some aren't even touched because of this upgrade.

Her Gun abilty needs toneing down, I suggest either lower attack speed or lower damage.

A lot of good upgrades cost too low and need to be increased, like Range on pounce, save one charge on pounce and more.

Amp damage should be bought, not free.

IT DOESN'T MATTER, SHE IS STILL OP AND PAY2WIN!

MOST NEW NAUTS were overpowered on release, its just a coincidence that this naut was released with balance issues.

A great example would be Gnaw.

Also Pay2Win is when you actually pay up front for an overpowered weapon or character that WON'T be changed/balanced because everyone who paid for the weapon or character will complain, this mostly happens in F2P RPGS or most F2P games in general like Crimecrap Gangbang wars which died because of it.

Starstorm is different, not only you have to pay for the core game, but for the DLC itself so people expect balance in the game, this is why Starstorm is seriously bashed sadly but luckly for us we have Ronimo, not EA, so they changed the charaters once and a while, like Ted from a monster, into useless. into a decent naut again, then into a not so decent naut.

Questions you might ask!

Q. This isn't as big as Ted's guide, why is this?

A. Unlike Ted, Foxy hasn't caused as much rage, thus less problems then Ted.

Q. So that's the end then? All 5 characters are here! What's next?

A. I do make other guides, my most recent one is on Payday 2 talking about Perk decks, I also have another one in the works. Plus I might make a Starstorm super guide talking about what's in the DLC and is it Pay2Win, aka combing all these guides into one and adding more content like about Music etc.

Also if your against this, too bloody bad.

Q. Have you faced good players who played against the naut your talking about?

A. Yes, or I would be making these blind, I play awesomenauts a lot so I do have good experience with these characters.

Q. So that's the end then? All 5 characters are here! What's next?

A. I do make other guides, my most recent one is on Payday 2 talking about Perk decks, I also have another one in the works. Plus I might make a Starstorm super guide talking about what's in the DLC and is it Pay2Win, aka combing all these guides into one and adding more content like about Music etc.

Q. Can I play a game with you?

A.Due to a large "Adding Blitzkerg" from Phishing Bots I stopped accepting all friend requests unless you contacted me somewhere else.

Q. Link to your other guides?
A. Of course!

http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=204520731
http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=255816567
http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=264122154
http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=402541147

Q. Will you answer my comment?

A. I'm happy to answer all seroius comments, however if I don't it means I can't be bothered or your comment is so stupid I know I should'nt even try answering it.

Q. Have you got a steam group?

A. It's not about me, it's just a group of players who enjoy a certain gif and a certain song joined together, honestly the members are really friendly and you can make some new friends there, but not me, I'm a grumpy old ♥♥♥♥.

http://gtm.steamproxy.vip/groups/CatgrooveFrogArmy

66 Comments

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JaydenMoon 3 Jan, 2015 @ 1:59am

Plus Penny is the cutest character in the game which makes her the best choice for everybody...who likes cuties :D

DenebRaptor 27 Aug, 2014 @ 1:08pm

Both attacks with max damage upgrades and death lens (disregarding the claw attacks to get charges back) would do 134 damage total. If you add starstorm statue, it would be 147.7 damage (again, ignoring claw attacks). Therefore, Penny Fox WOULD do more damage than Froggy G with both abilities.

DenebRaptor 27 Aug, 2014 @ 1:02pm

No, Splash Dash with max damage upgrades doesn't do more than both Pounce and Energy Pulse. Energy Pulse with max Bug Jars does 56 damage at 4 charges, which is 1 damage more than 55 damage.

Overwatch Blender 8 Aug, 2014 @ 7:34am

(Again from my discussion) People compare her to Froggy G, but here's what Froggy G can do in comparison.

Splash dash with full damage upgrades is 55 damage, which is more than both Pounce and Pulse, but this is just an example, I'm not sure every Froggy G would take both damage boosts, but who knows.

The Tornado Spin does only 23 damage with the max damage upgrade, but you can get an upgrade which makes it explode, maximum upgrade adds 40 damage to AoE after the Tornado ends, so 63 damage.

Splash dash and Tornado Spin can do up to 118 damage, However, the Bolt .45 only does 6 damage per hit, which is less than Penny, not to mention how Penny gets the Starstorm Statue which upgrades her damage even more, so in comparison Penny is superior over Froggy G in everything except frontup Splash+Tornado damage. Penny can however easily go above that damage by clawing you even more.

Surtr Logi [author] 8 Aug, 2014 @ 7:26am

I never said she was balanced, she is really strong right now and might be like this for a while.

Also she's like Froggy because both of them are really similar, the main diffrence is that Froggy has a bit less health, a bit less speed and has short cooldown for Splash dash and takes no damage , Foxy is a bit bulker, a bit faster and not only has a short cooldown but she requires charges to activate pounce, she is also vunreable during pounce.

Just practice, right now I rarely have any issues with Foxy, and I mainly play nauts who she counters, like Clunk.

Overwatch Blender 8 Aug, 2014 @ 7:12am

She does have low HP, but if she's hurt she can run away extremely quickly to regain health, and when you're trying to get to your turret she simply zooms back and deals another helping of damage. (From my discussion I posted)

I've counted up the damage potential of a Pulse-Pounce combo, with 4 charges each;

Pounce: 30
Pulse: 32

That's already 62 damage in a short timeframe. The reason I say a short timeframe, is because she can use up her 4 charges with a Pulse/Pounce, claw you 4 times and then use the second attack with 4 charges which is.....

98 damage in a short timeframe, and even after she's used her attacks, she can claw you even more while you're retreating, causing even more damage. That's right folks, 98 damage in a matter of seconds! Doesn't that smell OP in the slightest? And I can easily kill Froggy G as Ayla, so I don't see why she's like Froggy G.

Surtr Logi [author] 8 Aug, 2014 @ 6:59am

She is supposed to counter Ayla, that is why she is the "bane" of Ayla, plus Foxy is fast because she's like Froggy G, swift, packs a punch and has low hp.

Overwatch Blender 8 Aug, 2014 @ 6:37am

And she is faster than Ayla even when I have both speed upgrades.

Overwatch Blender 8 Aug, 2014 @ 6:30am

Her pulse attack is OP as fuck, it only takes 2 seconds to cooldown and can deal up to 40 damage a pop. She is the bane of Ayla.

Surtr Logi [author] 26 Jun, 2014 @ 7:28am

I should have explained Pay2Win's actual definition more clearly for my guides now that I look at it.

Pay2Win is when you actually pay up front for an overpowered weapon or character that WON'T be changed/balanced because everyone who paid for the weapon or character will complain, this mostly happens in F2P RPGS or most F2P games in general like Crimecrap Gangbang wars which died because of it.

Starstorm is different, not only you have to pay for the core game, but for the DLC itself so people expect balance in the game, this is why Starstorm is seriously bashed sadly but luckly for us we have Ronimo, not EA, so they changed the charaters once and a while, like Ted from a monster, into useless. into a decent naut again, then into a not so decent naut.

Thanks for telling me that, I appreciate comments like this that assist in improving my guides, its sad its rare I get this instead of NUUUUUUU UR WRUNG SHE OP or DIS PAY2WIN NURRRRRRR.

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