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Dojo or Dont'jo? AOE 3 Dojo Card Analysis

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Dojos in AOE 3 are Japanese Mini Factories, who can only Produce units. How good are they in Practice? Is it worth it to send them? And what units should you produce? Find out here :)

Link to Dojo Build Order:
https://youtu.be/wQ8yoe1RIro

Link to Steamguide:
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2363571080

Dojo literally means "place of the way" and is mainly used in the western world to describe a place or a school where martial arts is teached
Wikipedia contributors. "Dojo." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, 24 Dec. 2020. Web. 20 Jan. 2021.

What do dojos do? 
They can produce japanese Barracks and stable units. They produce Ashigarus and Yumi's in Batches of 5 and Samurais, Naginatas and Yabusames in groups of 3.
Also the Batches are created at different rates, where Yumi's are created the fastest wheres Yabusame the slowest. You can decrease the creation time of your dojo armies with the shogunate and the Dojo Upgrade "Kamidana". The Church Upgrades "Standing Army" and "Mass Cavalry", which you can get with a dutch ally do not affect Dojo Armies. If you dont have Population for a army when the train time is finished, the cycle Starts again WITHOUT you getting an army.

Without Upgrades Yumis are created in 2 minutes and 14 seconds and Yabusames are created in allmost 3 minutes. Ashigarus, Samurai and Naginata are all created in 2 and a half minutes.
The Shogunate decreases the Creation time by 10 % and the upgrade by another 33 percent (says the text). Both combined reduce the Training time by roughly 36 %. However the Math works out internally.

CreationTimeWithUpgAndShogunate = BaseCreationTime * 0.64

With the Age 4 Tech and the shogunate you can decrease the creation time to under 2 minutes for all units.

Now that we have the train time, lets find out the Value you are getting with each army.
For this i calculate the food Equivalent cost, because food is gathered faster than coin and wood (rates blended in).
The Yumi Army is the cheapest and the yabusame army the most expensive one.

Okay so we have the train time and the value of each army, now we can calculate how much Ressources our Dojo is gathering per second with the following Formula:
FoodEquivalentGatherRate = FoodEquivalentValue / TrainTime

I ll show you the results for unupgraded Dojos, for Dojos with shogunate and for Dojos with shogunate + the dojo Upgrade.
A few things i would like to highlight:
1) Yumis are the best choice when trained in dojos and yabusames the worst.
2) The Gather rate of a Dojo is consistently over 4 foodequivalent / s for all armies. With Shogunate and upgrades you'll have a gather rate of over 6 food/s. For Comparison: A factory gathers at 5.5 Food / second and 7.15 Food / second. So Dojos are valuewise roughly 75 % of Factories.

How many Villagers does that equal? I ll assume you have all age 2 market upgrades with Japan. I ll blend in the Gather rate for this scenario for natural ressources.

To make the Calculation simple i'll just divide the Gather rates i just calculated by the berry gather rate of 0,87.
For Yumis that would be :
Villager Equivalent =
= FoodEquivalentGatherRateOfDojo / BerryGatherRate 
= 4.38 / 0.87 =
= 5.03

So in Age 3 your Dojo Shipment is worth roughly 5 Villagers. With Shogunat it is a bit better than 5 Villagers. With all the Upgrades your Dojos are gathering at roughly 7 Villagers.

Conclusion:
I ll do a quick list of the cons and the Pros of Dojos starting with the cons and then do my final Conclusion.

Cons:
No Population Space results in a massive loss. Also they stop producing value, once you reach 200 pop. So no Banking up ressources.
One time card. Once Destroyed, it is gone forever. Also "only" 2500 Hp, which is half of a factory or a wonder.
Units have to walk more until they are at the front.

Pros: 
Dojos are harder to raid.
Dojos dont go Idle, unless you have maxed population
Dojos dont deplete natural Ressources and you also wont need a additional production building to use the additional ressources.

A Dojo is worth roughly 75% Factories or 5 to 7 villagers. 
Training Yumis in Dojos gives you the highest value, while training Yabusame gives you the lowest.
Ashigaru, Samurai and Naginate give you roughly the same value and are between yabusame and Yumis.
Dojos are honestly better than expected. Are they broken? Probably not. Are they decent? Yes, Valuewise they are allmost as good as the 7 Villager Shipment, Especially if you get the shogunate.

Patch: December 2020

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★彡אֵלִיָּה彡★ 23 stycznia 2021 o 8:23

used em when vs ai (pre 2007), but never since

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