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Breeding the perfect corral pet
By Tekvorian
Do you want to breed a massive beast that you can call your corral pet? Then you are in the right spot for all the information you need.
   
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Motivation
Do you want to breed a massive beast that you can call your corral pet? Then you are in the right spot for all the information you need.
Breeding goals
  • Highest DPS and survivability
  • Use only a minimal set of skills under consideration of their cooldowns. This leads to higher consistency of these skills being cast and used at the right time
  • No charge up skills unless that skill is overpowered. Losing 1 turn for a mediocre skill is meh
  • 1 movement / teleport skill to catch up onto enemies. Meaning: Less normal movement leads to more DPS
  • Some heal and defensive skills
  • Direct single and direct AOE damage skills
  • No CC, unless it is really good. Just kill the enemy as fast as possible
Method
There are 3 ways to learn about pet skills:
  1. Go to the wiki. It is outdated though (last edit April 2019; it misses a lot of high lvl skills): https://tangledeep.fandom.com/wiki/Monster_Info
  2. Breed a pet with some skills and observe them in action
  3. Observe the enemy for skill usage and then check the combat log for information
Step 1: Get max stats pets
  1. Get a mythical pet of any type. You can see the rarity if you play as Wild Child
  2. Get a second mythical or breed it with the first one
  3. Now that you have 2 mythical pets, you can use them to breed max stats pets:
    Attributes: 150; Damage: 1500; HP: 4000
    This can be done in 2 ways: breed a lot by having lots of Rose Petals (child has 7.5% higher stats each time if you spend 1 JP) and/or invest max JP (get an additional increase of 8%). Source: https://tangledeep.fandom.com/wiki/Monster_Taming
Step 2: Get skills on these pets
This can be done in 2 ways:
  1. breed them with pets that have skills that you like. Hope that the child inherits most of them
  2. use Monster Letters
Source: https://tangledeep.fandom.com/wiki/Monster_Taming

Some observations:
  • The amount of skills that a child inherits is random. It does not matter how many JP you invest
  • If you have lots of Rose Petals, then just invest the 1 JP. Save the rest of JP for later for learning / unlearning pet skills
  • Pet cooldowns are halved. So if a skill has 6s CD, then it is available again after 3s
  • It might be worthwhile to add the general affix Companions (8% Corral pet damage and defense) on all gear (so, 40% in total with weapon, 2 accessoirs, 1 armor, 1 offhand). The developer confirmed: Companions does indeed affect your corral pet even if they have maxed stats.
  • Same goes for the affix Loyalty — Corral pet restores 15% of its max Health when you defeat a non-trivial monster. This increases the survivability of your pet immensely. This one does not stack though, probably. So get it only once.
Current recommendations
  1. Get all the heals you can on the pet. It will increase its survivabilty a lot and you will need less healing items on it
  2. Get 2-3 strong AOE damage skills. They are enough for killing your opponents. I went for Divine Storm, Bite Storm and Plague Wave
  3. Get as many passive skills as possible. They are basically free improvements on your pet. E.g. Stun Resistance and Thick Hide
  4. Get 1 movement skill, such that the pet can move freely and in a fast way around. Otherwise, it is slow (meaning less DPS) and it get blocked by you, your summons or other summons
Monsters with valuable skills
Name
Location
Priority (1=high; 3=low)
Skills
Bandit Enforcer or Battosai
Dreams, 18F+
3
Passive Parrier (passive): Increased parry chance
Bandit Wrangler
High level dreams
2
Flanking Jump (CD ??): Possibly a good alternative to fly with a much bigger range. Seems to have no charge up. (TODO: needs verification)
Eidolon
High level dreams
1
Divine storm (CD 5): massive electrical AOE damage, Stun resistance (passive)
Emperor Komodon
High level dreams
1
Bite Storm (CD 6): 3 bites randomly around the pet. Each 300-400 physical dmg. 800 - 1200 to a single target, Resilient (passive), Regeneration (passive healing; kicks in randomly)
Fungal Toad
3F+
1
Fungal Regeneration (CD ?): 4 times 129 hp for 4 steps. Wiki: Heals self over time by 5% each turn for 4 turns
Grizzled Komodon
15F+
2
Thick Skin (passive), Sandstorm (CD??): AOE blind
Guardian Protector
High level dreams
2
Energy Shield (CD ??): massive 1k+ shield that absorbs damage
Guardian Seeker
15F+
3
Fly (CD ??): good movement skill with no charge up, Medi-Ray (heal; possibly stacks with Medi-Ray-II)
Hardshell Snapper
2F+
2
Spiky Shell (passive), Tough Shell (passive)
Mad Chemist
7F+
1
Potion Heal (CD 12): Heal 287 HP immediately
Monarch
High level dreams
1
Glitterskin (-50% accuracy to attackers), Increased Dodge (passive)
Neutralizer
Dreams
1
Fly (CD ??): good movement skill with no charge up, Medi-Ray II (CD 5): Heal for 225 HP immediately. Also heals neightbour pets for 50% less (137 HP)
Plague Spirit
High level dreams
1
Plague Wave (CD 10): Massive range and shadow AOE damage. Spreads and keeps damaging enemies for several turns
River Spirit
4F+
3
Watery Heal
Sky Slither
Dreams
3
Carefree Lunge (TODO: possibly a good movement skill. alternative to Fly skill)
Spectre
High level dreams
2
Aura of Suppression (TODO: need to test), Superior Parry (TODO: possibly a good passive)
Spinebro / Quillkin
2F+
3
Thorned Hide (passive): Chance of melee attackers receiving physical damage
Vine Stalker
7F+
3
Thorned Skin (passive): Chance of melee attackers receiving physical damage
9 Comments
Angela Ranna 18 Nov, 2021 @ 12:42pm 
Comments have a 1,000 character limit :ftired:.


Use Cat'Ie to remove all skills from a monster except the one you want to get before releasing it. That way when you finally get your letters they're only good ones.

You only need one Mythical pet and a little luck to start the incest program. The child seems to randomly inherit either parent's rarity.
Angela Ranna 18 Nov, 2021 @ 12:41pm 
Some more thoughts:

A tertiary goal is to get all these stats and abilities on a good monster base that's highly resistant to damage. Notables:
-Plague Spirit: resistant to physical; very resistant to fire, poison, water, air, and shadow.
-Metal Slime: very resistant to physical and fire.
-Sludge Spirit: very resistant to poison and shadow, resistant to water and lightning.

Verdigrizzly's Summon Floraconda is a nice-to-have ability. Probably not worth rolling the bones to breed it in, but definitely snag a couple and try to get it in a letter. This will let you proc the quest for growing plants in the Flooded Temple on any character, and it just puts another body on the field that can be attacked instead of you.
EPK 1 Jul, 2021 @ 2:46pm 
For readers, one of the best abilities:
Monster Hunter ability from Maniox
+50% DMG against monsters
ephemeraltoast 4 Jan, 2020 @ 4:19pm 
It does. I don't care for charge-up abilities generally but in this case, one turn charge is often faster than it would be for you to reposition the fight yourself to get the pet in on the action.
Tekvorian  [author] 4 Jan, 2020 @ 9:12am 
Does Fierce Charge have a charge-up? Meaning: does it need 1 turn to activate and then jump in the second turn?
Tekvorian  [author] 4 Jan, 2020 @ 9:08am 
Thanks for the info, especially with the behaviour tag. I will keep an eye on it.

I will add Sandstorm and Fierce Charge to the table. Though, I think just killing the summons with massive AOE (Divine Storm and Plague Wave) is the better way to go in the late game.
ephemeraltoast 4 Jan, 2020 @ 7:34am 
The grizzled komodon is a great breeding pet for more than just Thick Hide. It also gets Sandstorm, an *aoe* blind skill which is a literal lifesaver in a swarm of summoned frogs or whatever, and Fierce Charge, a damaging movement ability that it uses to leap into the thick of battle when it cannot reach the enemy, so you don't have to stop what you're doing and reposition the fight out of a hallway or whatever.

Also, certain enemies, notably the Neutralizer, are actually horrible pets because of a behavior tag (you can see it in the mosterpedia) called "wander" which makes them zoom around the map completely ignoring you and what you're fighting. I don't know how breeding works w/r/t behavior tags but I will avoid breeding any monster with that tag after an awful experience with a Neutralizer pet that never helped me because it was constantly going on walkabout.
Tekvorian  [author] 3 Jan, 2020 @ 4:22pm 
From Valcus in the forum:
I've only done a single play through so don't have a lot of experience with all of the abilities but I found Summon Floroconda on my pet to be fantastic. It summoned several which felt like walking around with my own army. I could be mistaken but it seemed like they all where benefiting from my floro-buffs and healing each other with vine heal. That might fit nicely with both your DPS and survivability goals.
Tekvorian  [author] 3 Jan, 2020 @ 10:37am 
I have added a table with skills that I consider must-have