Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout

Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout

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Something You May Not Know in Atelier Ryza
By Okamiroy
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0. Before I Start
This is the 21st Atelier game. To my opinion, I'm not satisfied with A21, because of too easy synthesis system, short main story, lack of charactors' stories, and the test of my reaction in battle. But I know that these changes are all the efforts by GUST and KT, who hopes these changes can appeal more players. I really hope they can make a better Atelier game in a22.

Well, let's start the game, and this guide!

All the data is from many tests with my friends, and the Official Guide Book. There may be some mistakes. I will try my best to correct them.

If you can read Chinese, you can check some data here:
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Current game version is v1.00b
1. About Difficulty
Difficulty
HP
ATK
DEF
SPD
WT Consumption
Foe's Extra WT
Exp & Col
Drop Rate
EASY
0.7x
0.7x
0.7x
0.75x
0.7x
+100
1x
+0
NORMAL
1x
1x
1x
1x
1x
+0
1x
+0
HARD
1.5x
1.25x
1.25x
1.25x
1x
+0
1.5x
+25%
VERY HARD
3x
1.5x
1.5x
1.5x
1x
+0
1.5x
+50%
CHARISMATIC
6x
3x
3x
2x
1.5x
+0
2x
+100%
LEGEND(*)
10x
4x
4x
5x
2x
+0
3x
+100%
(*)Difficulty LEGEND will be installed in next patch. (Current version is v1.00b). In difficulty LEGEND, DEF debuffs will be continuously applied on party members, and cannot be removed.
2. About Quality
For those use items that more quality, more power:
  • Item damage
  • Item recovery
  • WT knockback
  • WT recovery

Quality, and those traits of item power enhancement, do nothing to buffs and debuffs amount.

Quality does nothing to any Gathering Tools' effects.

Equip higher quality equipment will increase your character's stat of "Equip Quality", which can increase your ATK, DEF, SPD. Equip 4 999-quality equipment, then you can get 200 Equip Quality.
3. About Gems
When you go into end game content, you will soon find that you don't need any Col, but Gems. Rebuilding, replicating, revovering Travel Bottle, all of them need a large amount of Gems. I will show you some tricks to get Gems easily.

You need to get and unlock the Multiplicauldron first, or you cannot replicate items.

If you almost don't have any gems, then craft a Scythe Axe with Gathering Up L and a Knapsack to increase the capacity of you basket. Then go to Maple Delta to chop down trees. Remember to charge to chop, so you can gather all the materials with one hit. When your basket is full, go back and transfer all these materials into Gems. About 50k is enough.

If you haven't defeated the final boss, then look at here.
1. Gather many Roteswasser Tonic from the pool in the north of Fragrant Forest in Maple Delta.
2. Craft Delphi Rose Incense. Remember to unlock the effect "Synth Quantity +2". All the other effects are not important. Do not use Rebuild.
3. Replicate it.
4. Craft Glass Flower. Put only one Roteswasser Tonic in, then use all your rest Choose Quantity to put Delphi Rose Incense in.
5. Get the products, and transfer all of them into Gems

Another route is Poison Cube -> Taboo Drop. But this route needs Underworld Rotwood, which can only be gathered from Underworld or Travel Bottle. The main story restricts you a long time that you cannot go to Underworld. So I don't recommend this route.

If you have finish the main story and get the recipe of Red Stone, then you can choose Red Stone -> Philosopher's Stone route. You need about 100k Gems for start-up, then you can reach the maximum within 10 minutes. This route can also give you a nice Alchemy Exp.
4. About Garden and Seeds
I don't recommend to plant seeds before you can synthesize good seeds.

You can get very high quality gathering materials form seeds. Products' quality floats between about half to maximum of seeds' quality. So if you craft 999-quality seeds, you have a chance to get 999-quality products.

The effect "Rare Gather Rate Up" means you have a chance that some special effect can be applied on the products. These effects are Element Value +1, Synth Quantity +1, Effect Spread +1.

As a result, it's better to craft 999-quality seeds with all max effects, and replicate them, and plant them to get the best products.

Listing all the products is difficult. I just list some useful materials that you can or cannot gather form seeds.

You can Gather:
  • all Elemental Cores
  • Dunkelheit
  • Golden Crown
  • two Lake Masters
  • Lapis Papillion
  • Gold Puniball

You CANNOT gather:
  • Eternal Crystal
  • Solflower
  • Shining Sand
  • Eternal Fire
  • Heroic Spirit
  • Golem Core
  • Giant Puniball
  • Dragon's Eye
  • Old Knight Emblem
  • Mythical Hide
  • Rainbow Gemstone
  • Holy Arbor Crystal
  • Amber Crystal
  • Amber Fragment
5. About Travel Bottle
This bottle is interesting. You can try to create a bottle world with certain materials and monsters, then share it to others by the password. This system can save much effort to find gathering materials. But I recommend you to gather better materials from seeds first, then get the rest from the bottle world.

Bottle world LV depends on current bottle world LV and your material LV. For example, your current bottle world is LV6, then you put an LV99 item in it, the new world may be only LV60, and you put an LV99 item in it again, it may change the world into LV90.

Higher bottle world LV means tougher monster fight, and higher material quality. As my experience, you can get at most 250 quality materials form an LV98 world.

Bottles and materials determine the materials and monsters in the world by a complex relationship. It's hard to figure it out, so share your password to others is better.
6. About Roles
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Role
Stats
Requirement
Role Effect
Attacker
ATK+5%
Offence LV is the highest
Critical rate +10%
High Attacker
ATK+10%
Offence LV is the highest,
Role LV in total is over 10
Critical Rate +15%,
Self's critical damage +10% if other member in same Row
Excel Attacker
ATK+20%,
DEF-30%,
SPD+5%
Offence LV10 only,
Defence LV is the lowest,
Role LV in total is over 20
Critical rate + 20%,
Both's critical damage +20% if other member in same Row
SPD +30% if no member in the same Row
Defender
DEF+5%
Defence LV is the highest
In Front Row: 50% chance to become the target, take damage for same Back Row member
In Back Row: damage taken -30%
High Defender
DEF+10%
Defence LV is the highest,
Role LV in total is over 10
In Front Row: 70% chance to become the target, take damage for same Back Row member
In Back Row: damage taken -30%
Mighty Lord
ATK 5%,
DEF+20%,
SPD-30%
Defence LV10 only,
Support LV is the lowest,
Role LV in total is over 20
In Front Row: 70% chance to become the target, take damage for same Back Row member
In Back Row: damage taken -30%,
DEF +30% if no member in the same Row
Supporter
SPD+5%
Support LV is the highest
2% chance to gain double AP
High Supporter
SPD+10%
Support LV is the highest,
Role LV in total is over 10
5% chance to gain double AP,
AP consumption of Quick Action -30% if other member in same Row,
Never become the target if no other members nearby
Aegis Warrior
ATK 30%,
DEF+5%,
SPD+20%
Support LV10 only,
Offence LV is the lowest,
Role LV in total is over 20
8% chance to gain double AP,
AP consumption of Quick Action -50% if other member in same Row,
Never become the target if no other members nearby
Novice
-
-
-
New Legend
ATK+10%,
DEF+10%,
SPD+10%
One or two Role LV are 10,
Role LV in total is over 20,
Not Excel Attacker, Mighty Lord, Aegis Warrior
Core Charge recovery +2 when Convert,
Item damage and recovery +30% if no other members nearby
Braver
ATK+30%,
DEF+30%,
SPD+30%
Role LV in total is 30
Always become the target if other member in same Back Row,
Double the damage of Fatal Drive,
One more Braver in same Range, +1x damage of Fatal Drive
7. Craft End Game Items
Your Alchemy LV should be 99 first, so you can reach the maximum of Choose Quantity. You also need to plant seeds to get many different materials with Effect Spread +1.

Recipe Morph is one core system in A21. It can not only get new recipe, but also inherits the low item LV or even some effects from privious recipe, and increase Choose Quantity.

With this feature, we can craft an very powerful bomb of very low CC and item LV so that everyone can use, or craft a ring with over 400 ATK.

For use items, I take this Heroic Geist as an example.
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My route is: Cloth -> Alchemy Fibers -> Thorny Embrace -> Poison Smoke -> Heroic Geist

All the CC reduction effect can be inherited to the next recipe, but Heroic Geist has 3 CC -1 effect in its own recipe, so we don't need to unlock it in Poison Smoke's recipe.

When finally get to Heroic Geist, try to unlock as many effects as possible, and check if 3 trait slots are all unlocked, and the quality is 999 without any quality up traits. If quality is not enough, don't unlock those effects requiring low quality materials, and put more materials with "Synth Quality +xx" effect in, then finish this synthesis.

At last, rebuild this Heroic Geist, unlock all necessary effects and set your target traits on it. You get the most powerful item of knocking back and stunning foes.

For equipment, I take this Stark Cologne as an example.
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My Route is: Leather Protector -> Border Scale -> Radiant Plate -> Frost Armor -> Golden Mail -> Fortress Armor -> Stark Cologne

For More ATK, you need Goldoterion as many as possible, then Mater Leather, then Eldrocode.

When get to Radiant Plate, unlock the Effect 3 of "Enhance Skills +5%", and don't cover Effect 3 with other effects in next recipes.

When get to Fortress Armor, unlock the Effect 4 of "Enhance Stun +10%". If you like, you can unlock Effect 2 of "Unscathed". Use all your Choose Quantity to put Mater Leather in. Remember to save enough times to change to next Recipe.

When get to Stark Cologne, use all your Choose Quantity to put Eldrocode in, then finish this synthesis.

At last, rebuild this Stark Cologne, don't unlock any other effects, only set your target traits on it with another Eldrocode. then you get the most powerful armor for skill attackers.
8. About Weapon Reinforcement
You can reinforce your weapon at most 3 times, of course you need to find 3 Power Reactors first.

Here you can further add some stats to your weapon. Item's Rank may affect the stats bonus when do reinforcement. What's more, if you reinforce your weapon by use items, they may get an extra weapon effect.

Effects usually do much more work to your battle. so it's better to choose effects, not higher stats.

Here I list some useful items and their effects:
Item
Main Effect
Weapon Effect
Description
Remark
Craft
Physical Damage L
1000 Spikes
Fixed amount of additional damage
one more hit
Genesis Hammer
Continental Crusher
Creation Strike
Additional damage, enhanced at Tactics LV5
one more hit
Philosopher's Book
The Circle of Truth
Core Overflow
Additional damage, enhanced by Convert times, healing HP by 10%
one more hit
Rose Bomb
Searing Petal
Fire Blessing XL
Fire damage +30%
Kleid Ice Bomb
Freezing Waltz
Ice Blessing XL
Ice damage +30%
Strahl Plajig
Super Vibration Laser
Lightning Blessing XL
Lightning damage +30%
Rastsel Luft
Divine Whirl
Wind Blessing XL
Wind damage +30%
Fire Bottle
Meteor Call
Inferno Seal
5% chance of Fire resistance -1
Norden Brand
Bloddy Ice Blade
Frost Seal
5% chance of Ice resistance -1
Lightning Bell
Summon Thunderbolt
Thunderclap Seal
5% chance of Lightning resistance -1
Vanish Siegel
Destruction Emblem
Storm Seal
5% chance of Wind resistance -1
War Powder
Steel Spirit
War God's Cry L
ATK +20% in battle
Miracle Ebonyal
Hellish Power
Devil's Pact L
Critical rate +15%, critical damage +30%

9. Defeat Queen of Shadows in Charismatic
After you finish the game, Great Dark Element will appear in the center of Limewick Hill in Main Road. Beat her, and you can get Travel Bottle: Underworld. Use the password 5V85, you can enter the bottle world with the hidden boss Queen of Shadows.

Also you can put materials to create your own world. "Domain" world means Queen of Shadows there, "Ravine" world means Great Dark Element there.

9.1. The Video
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9.2. About the Boss
This hidden boss is just a enhanced version of final boss Ravaging Queen. Similar skills, but more power, and higher stats. She moves very fast in difficulty Charismatic. It's really a hard work for me to react.

9.3. Party Formation
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Main bomber is Ryza. She has the best power of bombs.
Lila and Klaudia is supporter. Klaudia helps knockback the boss at the beginning, then they both only need to do normal attack to gain AP.
Ryza and Klaudia's Role is Excel Attacker. They stand in the same row to get 20%+20% critical damage bonus. Lila's Role is not important.

9.4. Build My Party
Ryza:
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I reinforce Ryza's weapon with Miracle Ebonyal, Rose Bomb, Kleid Ice Bomb.
No useful traits for bombs on weapon, so you can set any traits you like.
When craft or rebuild equipment, remember to adjust different Role LV to meet your need. Do not unlock all the Role LV without any thoughts.

Klaudia:
-
On Klaudia's weapon, only Role LV is important. Weapon effects and traits are not important.
Due to the Role requirement of Excel Attack, I choose Frostfire Earring for Klaudia. Nothing but only Role LV is important.

Lila:
All of Lila's equipment is not important. Setting the trait "Brewing Authority" on both of her accessories is enough.

9.5. Use Items
Heroic Geist:
Just like the thing I wrote in Chapter 7.

Astronomical Clock
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The best thing to pull your whole party back to move, and add Tactics LV by 2. Two of it can raise your Tactics LV to 5 and you can soon use Fatal Drive. It also has a buff for all stats (ATK, DEF, SPD).

Eternal Fear
-
The best bomb in current version. High damage, high stun value, knockback, 3CC, no extra AP consumption, quick animation.

9.6. How to do
Ryza uses Heroic Geist to knockback boss
Klaudia uses Heroic Geist to knockback boss
Ryza interrupts, uses Astronomical Clock
Ryza uses Astronomical Clock again
Ryza uses or interrupts to uses Heroic Geist to knockback boss, until she is stunned
Ryza interrupts, uses skill Silhouette for a bomb damage buff
Boom to death
Boss changes to second form
Boom to death
10. In the End
I will update this guide when the game updates to a new version (if I think it's necessary) to get new traits and smash new boss.

If you or I find something new, I will also update this guide.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, both English and Chinese are OK.
8 Comments
Guedez 3 Jan, 2021 @ 9:06am 
The gateway cathedral have underworld wood in their boxes, so you are not locked out of Poison Cube -> Tabu Tonic loop for infinite items for gemification
Большая женщина 12 May, 2020 @ 1:28pm 
чел ты.........:cleanseal:
Navy 19 Nov, 2019 @ 8:52pm 
Oh, I though Charismatic was the only unlockable, thanks for the info. I just started learned Alchemy and I don't understand a shit of it to be honest xD.
Okamiroy  [author] 19 Nov, 2019 @ 7:17pm 
@Navylian
After you save the cleared data, Very Hard and Charismatic will be both unlocked.
Navy 19 Nov, 2019 @ 6:47pm 
This may be sound stupid, but didn't find an answer but, how do you unlock the "very hard" difficulty?. I mean, the game only let me "easy - normal - hard" . I know charismatic is with NG+ and Legend was added with the patch
Okamiroy  [author] 13 Nov, 2019 @ 9:50am 
@psi237
Ryza's passive skill increases her all damage at Tactics LV5, and many other things become better at that time.
But, whatever, our party's dealt damage is too high in current version. So your build is also a good solution. If foe's HP gets to a higher value, so high that current CC is not enough, then I think it's better to increase the damage per item. (And I think bombing too many times is too boring, and slow)
As I know, that hidden boss has 200k+300k HP in Legend difficulty, and a normal monster will have over 1m HP when the Travel Bottle can exceed to LV200.
psi237 13 Nov, 2019 @ 7:47am 
What about getting Aegis Warrior or High Supporter for Ryza so her QA bombing costs minimal AP? I bomb bosses to death without even needing that clock. Just bomb anything.
チサキ 8 Nov, 2019 @ 8:44am 
Astronomical Clock is also nice for reduced skill WT