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How long it takes to unlock the new Karma

By Solustos

This guide shows you how long it takes or how many dungeons you have to do to unlock the new Karma.

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Category: Achievements, Characters, Classes, Loot, Multiplayer, Secrets, Walkthroughs

Languages: English

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7 Jul, 2019 @ 8:49am

15 Nov, 2019 @ 10:40am

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Guide Index

Overview

The Calculation

AP Calculation

AP Calculation with 10% Boost

AP Calculation with 30% Boost

AP Calculation for fast Players

CP Calculation

CP Calculation with selling Drops

CP Calculation with selling Drops and 30% Boost

TLDR

Changelog

End of the Guide

Comments

The Calculation

First off, I did all this because I simply wanted to know how long this grind takes and for fun. And I thought that I could make a public guide so other people can also see how long it takes.

And here are some things to note:
- The calculation is based on that you only do Grand Chase Dungeons, therefore the reward per dungeon is 239CP and 143AP
- I refer to Grand Chase Dungeon as GCD
- You need 60000CP and 45000AP to unlock the new Karma
- Let's say 1 GCD is about 2-5 minutes long, we take the golden middle 3.5 minutes

AP Calculation

How many dungeons?
45000AP / 143AP = ~315 GCDs

How many hours?
315 GCDs * 3.5 minutes = 1102.5 minutes = ~18.4 hours

AP Calculation with 10% Boost

Reward per GCD: 143AP * 1.1 = ~157AP

How many dungeons?
45000AP / 157AP = ~287 GCDs

How many hours?
287 GCDs * 3.5 minutes = 1004.5 minutes = ~16.7 hours

AP Calculation with 30% Boost

Reward per GCD: 143AP * 1.3 = ~186AP

How many dungeons?
45000AP / 186AP = ~242 GCDs

How many hours?
242 GCDs * 3.5 minutes = 847 minutes = ~14.1 hours

AP Calculation for fast Players

By request, I am adding another calculation for those who have good partners and know exactly what they are doing. Here I chose the average time of 2 minutes.

How many dungeons?
Still ~315 GCDs, ~287 GCDs with 10% boost or ~242 GCDs with 30% boost.

How many hours?
315 GCDs * 2 minutes = 630 minutes = 10.5 hours

With 10% boost:
287 GCDs * 2 minutes = 574 minutes = ~9.6 hours

With 30% boost:
242 GCDs * 2 minutes = 484 minutes = ~8.1 hours

CP Calculation

How many dungeons?
60000CP / 239CP = ~251 GCDs

How many hours?
251 GCDs * 3.5 minutes = 878.5 minutes = ~14.6 hours

CP Calculation with selling Drops

Things to note:
- Drop chance in GCD: 5%
- 1 drop is 600CP

Dividing the drops into every single match:
600CP * 0.05 = 30CP per GCD
239CP + 30CP = 269CP reward in one GCD

How many dungeons?
60000CP / 269CP = ~223 GCDs

How many hours?
223 GCDs * 3.5 minutes = 780.5 minutes = ~13 hours

CP Calculation with selling Drops and 30% Boost

Reward per GCD: 239CP * 1.3 = 311CP

With drops:
311CP + 30CP = 341CP

How many dungeons?
60000CP / 341CP = ~176 GCDs

How many hours?
176 GCDs * 3.5 minutes = 616 minutes = ~10.3 hours

TLDR

The real bottleneck here is AP.
Assuming you don't spend your CP, it will take you 315 GCDs/18.4 hours/10.5 hours(fast players)
or with the 30% AP boost 242 GCDs/14.1 hours/8.1 hours(fast players) to unlock the new Karma.

Changelog

[08-Jul-19]
- Added AP calculations
- Added "AP Calculation for fast players" section
[11-Sep-19]
- Added AP calculation with 30% boost

End of the Guide

I hope this guide was helpful :)

If you notice any mistakes or something I could add, then please write it in the comments.

13 Comments

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WavyCat 9 Aug, 2019 @ 8:19am

It takes around 1 hour to unlock DS karma.

How?: Work

Dorox 16 Jul, 2019 @ 7:31am

You can unlock the new karma in the Information of Affinity, you just have to scroll the NPCs and get to Kien Astrea, there will be a 60000CP and 45000AP lock, when you got them just 'buy kien' and you'll be able to unlock the Karma.

Genius Scientist 16 Jul, 2019 @ 7:00am

You need 60000CP and 45000AP to unlock the Dual Soul
Where can i unlock it?

Miwoo 14 Jul, 2019 @ 5:49pm

Where can you unlock them?

Vibin Au'glancett 11 Jul, 2019 @ 9:02pm

Thanks! That's a lot of work then. :D

Solustos [author] 11 Jul, 2019 @ 9:35am

@iale5000, I know that you can be even faster. I just asked in the official Kurtzpel Discord and every player that answered said 2 minutes is a good average time, thats why I chose it.

AshDaHero 11 Jul, 2019 @ 6:32am

TLDR...just buy the damn thing :v

Oryxia 11 Jul, 2019 @ 3:42am

Some duos with the mage class can do a avarege of 1.5 min or less

Solustos [author] 9 Jul, 2019 @ 6:36am

Thanks ^^

Dorox 9 Jul, 2019 @ 4:07am

Thanks a lot for adding AP calculations <3, great job !

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