Fallout Shelter

Fallout Shelter

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Expert Survival Mode Guide
By Zozano
Perfect vault layout! Powerful dwellers! Re-roll lunchboxes! and more!
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Introduction
This guide aims to provide:
  • advanced tips
  • a comprehensive guide to vault layout
  • hidden combat information
  • how to re-roll lunchboxes

As of publishing this guide, my survival save has:
  • over 200 hours
  • obtained every achievement
  • maximised efficiency
  • kept all my dwellers alive
  • maintained a baby free zone

IMPORTANT WARNINGS
1. DO NOT UPGRADE YOUR VAULT DOOR!
2. DO NOT ALTER YOUR SYSTEM TIME!

1. The vault door cannot be downgraded. Upgrading it slows down invaders; the opposite of efficient.

2a. Your device time affects time in the game. There is a very specific way to modify system time to your advantage, but if you do it wrong, you may permanently and irreparably glitch your save.

2b. I will tell you how to do this safely in the section "Re-rolling lunchboxes"
What is Efficient?
Once you've reached the end-game content, the biggest liability is time during an incident.

There are many things you can do to reduce incident time:
  • crush rad-scorpions ASAP, they are your biggest threat
  • leave your vault door at level-1
  • send nearby dwellers to help control the incident
  • avoid upgrading your rooms, higher level rooms create powerful fires and pests
  • build your vault in a way that that eliminates the possibility of an incident spreading
The First Floor
1. DO NOT UPGRADE YOUR VAULT DOOR!

The fastest way to eliminate invaders is to let them in.
  • Occupy the vault door with two high HP dwellers, each with a Dragon's Maw.
  • Occupy the room succeeding the vault door with six high HP dwellers, each with a Dragon's Maw.
With this, ghouls and raiders will die in the vault door room, and deathclaws will die in the next.

The second room must be a 3-wide to have six dwellers occupy it, and level-1 to reduce the room depth.

As you upgrade rooms, they become deeper. A shallow room is the most efficient way of ending an incident quickly.

If an enemy loses all HP, they must walk to the foreground to die. (watching a fatally wounded enemy hobble from the back of a level-3 room to die between the doors is time consuming)

The room behind the 3-wide is free-game, I choose to train Endurance to my level-5 recruits there, as Endurance is the most important stat in the game.
323 vs 332
323 and 332 are layout preferences, it's the difference between symmetry from the second floor down, or an elevator that's connected to the end of your ground floor 3-wide room.

This is the 323 build:

I believe this is a better layout style, for every 2-wide room, is either empty or has an Advanced Reactor (level-2). This will give you enough power to negate rad-scorpion attacks, and for the dwellers to act as en emergency service to vacant rooms.
Dealing with Rad-Scorpions
The biggest waste of time is the rad-scorpion. They randomly teleport from room to room, draining your energy, and your patience.

This layout is designed to counteract the rad-scorpion foremost.
Notice that every room high-lighted in yellow is empty.
It is incredibly important to stagger your rooms in this fashion.

You want the ability to move all available dwellers on that floor to respond to any incident immediately.
Population Limit
To obtain the 200 dweller limit most efficiently, you will need:
  • 2x 3-wide Barracks (level-3)
  • 2x 2-wide Barracks (level-3)
  • 2x 3-wide Residence (level-2)
Total: exactly 200 dwellers.

However, peak efficiency is obtained well before 200 dwellers.
Also, high-level rooms invite high-level risks.
With the same 16 spaces, a more efficient layout would be:
  • 4x 3-wide Living Quarters (level-1)
  • 2x 2-wide Living Quarters (level-1)
Total: 148 dwellers

This is better, due to level-1 rooms generating the weakest fires and pests.
You do not need more than 148 dwellers.
Re-rolling Lunchboxes and Pet Carriers
Step 1 - Setup
Quit out of the game
Do the following
Then navigate to:
C:\Users\*\AppData\Local\
Replace the * with your Windows username
Find the folder FalloutShelter
Right-click > Send to > Desktop
Open the folder

Step 2 - Backup
Create a folder inside the FalloutShelter folder
Name it in this format: YYYYMMDDHHMM
Example: 201904061601
Copy the files for whichever vault you want to re-roll lunchboxes for
Example: Vault1.sav AND Vault1.sav.bkp
Paste them into the folder you just made

Step 3 - Check contents
Start the game up
Open your lunchboxes
Become disappointed in the results
Quit out of the game

Step 4 - Restore save game
Go back to the backup folder
Copy both files
Go back to the FalloutShelter folder
Paste and replace the files
Open the game again
You should have the lunchboxes you opened before

Step 5 - Patience
The contents of the lunchbox are dependant on a variable I haven't figured out
The contents of the lunchbox will re-roll over time.
Sometimes it's a matter of minutes, sometimes hours.
Open the lunchboxes again at a later time to see the contents changed
If you know the exact variable, tell me and I'll credit you in this section

Using this method, I managed to obtain over 20 legendary dwellers with only 130 lunchboxes.

Killdozer asks: Is this legal?
A: Hacking additional lunchboxes into the game is technically piracy. What I'm advocating for is not hacking. The EULA stipulates the user must not modify software files. However, the save files are found in the user directory, which means backing up and restoring files are within legal constraints.
Hidden Combat Information
The combat mechanics in the vault, and out on quests are very different.

Inside the vault, the damage output of a single dweller is the average damage of their weapon stats.
Example: A weapon with the stats 3-7, does exactly 5 damage.
All weapons share the same attack speed and it doesn't matter if their attack animations convey their attack, they do damage while standing still. There is no stagger function. All parties take shared damage from the opposing teams damage score.

Inside the vault, the only stat that influences their combat ability is Endurance; which dictates a dwellers total health, each time they level up. A level 50 dweller has no advantages to wearing a stat-boosting outfit in combat.

Wasteland explorers share the same basic combat mechanics.

While questing, the combat mechanics change drastically.
Besides the obvious critical hit multiplier, Agility affects attack speed, Perception lowers critical multiplier speed, Luck increases critical frequency.

Some weapons like the MIRV do area of attack damage, other weapons like Vengeance fire multiple rounds each attack.

The general consensus is that the Vengeance is superior to the Dragon's Maw while questing due to chance to stagger the enemy, and also switch targets mid-attack if the enemy dies with the first few shots. If you're doing low level quests it is most effective to arm one dweller with a MIRV and the other two with Vengeance's.

My questing dwellers also run with Expert Jumpsuit's (+7 Agility) to maximise DPS.
If you're bad at landing perfect critical attacks, you can change to the Heavy Vault Suit (+7 Perception) to slow down the critical multiplier even further.
High HP Dwellers
Please view this guide here for a great in depth explanation of how Endurance affects a Vault Dwellers HP; skip to "Dweller Naming and Tracking Maximum Health"
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1277145964
gussmed essentially explains that to create a high HP Dweller, you'll need to max out their Endurance at the earliest possibility, then give them "Heavy wasteland gear" (+7 Endurance) until they hit level 50.

Personally, I don't like gussmeds Dweller naming convention, I much prefer to give each dweller a prefix of 3, 5 or 7, to denote which piece of gear they were wearing as they leveled up (obviously with max Endurance as a base stat). But how you wish to record your dwellers HP is personal preference.
Conclusion
Thank you for viewing my guide. If there is anything you think I've missed, please let me know, I will include it and give you credit. Thanks to gussmed who helped me to get to this point in the game, his guide listed above is fantastic, and should be used in conjunction with this one.
42 Comments
Zozano  [author] 25 Aug @ 3:30pm 
@JDFensty

I got the achievement legit - I also have all three of those characters, so they definitely were added to the PC version.
JDFensty 25 Aug @ 6:04am 
Can anyone confirm: IS it possible to get all 20 Legendary Dwellers on the PC version? I was told somewhere that it simply is impossible to ever get the final achievement because 3 dwellers, Lucy, Maximus and the Ghoul were never added to the PC version.

Is this true? Or can I keep opening lunchboxes and eventually get duplicates of some of the other legendary dwellers? I have all 17 at this time.
Zozano  [author] 23 Aug @ 5:21pm 
@Godrix

I'm assuming your objective is to play more passively, so you don't need to move dwellers at all?

This is extremely dangerous on survival-mode because of how deadly incidents become.

This layout provides an amply supply of stimpacks (provided you don't let incidents spread). Even with an entire room full of maximum HP dwellers, all wielding Dragon's Maw's, you'll still need to heal your dwellers after every incident (except radroaches) to avoid the risk of a a dweller dying.

With fully decked out dwellers, you can miss one incident without a casualty - not two.

If a fire spreads from one of the empty central column rooms, that's 20 dwellers you'll need to heal, more than 3 times the number of stimpacks required.

Regardless - you'll need to spend time healing your dwellers, so you can't just leave it running in the background safely.
Godrix 23 Aug @ 4:26am 
Thanks, is there anyway to layout your vault if you don't want to move dwellers to incident rooms to prevent a spread but rather opt to have them spread instead?

Would this be possible at all with radscorpions at all? Please advise, thanks.
Zozano  [author] 22 Aug @ 6:24pm 
@Godrix

This setup optimises power requirements with dweller capacity and storage space.

You could make the central column all empty, but then the resources would become unbalanced.

Regarding the radscorpions; you always want a room full of dwellers no more than one room away, as they're a massive pain in the ass.
Godrix 22 Aug @ 4:40pm 
Hi

Can you explain why you need to stagger the rooms and what will happen when you don't?

If you left the 2-wide centre rooms going down vertically to always be empty and not staggered, but the adjacent 3-wide rooms were manned by 6 dwellers, would that not work vs radscorpions?
❀ Hikari ❀ 29 Oct, 2024 @ 2:33pm 
just to add in regards of the lunch box re-roll. bad news is that the lunch boxes won't re-roll their contents after you get them. at least from what I've observed. good news is that if you save before getting one then u can re-roll with that save copy paste method, although the contents will vary only slightly. allegedly the contents are determined upon receiving the lunch box.
yansen 25 Oct, 2024 @ 4:57am 
i can confirm from the previous comment, whenever mysterious stranger appears, the lunchbox content are different
Zozano  [author] 25 Aug, 2024 @ 7:47pm 
@nard_vamoos

Goddamn! I'll need to test this at a later day but that certainly sounds right!
nard_vamoos 24 Aug, 2024 @ 10:53pm 
Lunchbox contents are updated/changed by the mysterious stranger. When he appears, whether you find him and collect the caps, or miss him, he updates the contents of all lunchboxes you have ready to open or are rewards for quests you have completed or not yet completed. If you have one in inventory, one completed quest with a lunchbox or one not yet completed with the lunchbox as a reward, all three types of lunchbox contents are updated. You can reload a save over and over and get the exact same contents from all these lunchboxes. If you have the mysterious stranger appear, even if you only hear him and can't find him, your lunchbox contents have been changed.

This indicates that reloading saves is an intentional feature of the game included and specifically programmed for by the developers!! The _only_ way to realize the mysterious stranger has updated your lunchbox contents is if you are reloading old saves and checking the same lunchboxes again.