Book of Demons

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Roguelike Achievement Tips
By Shindragan
Some tips from my experience in conquering this Achievement, it also might help with your normal play if you are having troubles.
   
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Tips and Tricks
Welcome Achievement Hunters!

For this achievement you need to:
Reach and defeat Archdemon in Roguelike mode without using any fountain

This one is very tricky, death is not the thing you should be scared off, if you die, if you have enough gold, you can resurrect and be on your way.. but imagine being 5 hours into your run and then you accidentally click on a fountain!! Your run is ruined and you have to start over.

Unfortunately there is no way to preventing that accident and if you play with a controller its even easier to mess up.

Do read the comment section too, people have great suggestions and tips too!

Also keep in mind that in roguelike mode, the priest charges you for their health and mana potions, the cauldron DOES NOT keep the level up you didnt choose, making it very important to balance your health and mana max points and the ability cards are very random so you might have to go through the entire game without that darn fire card to counter cold hearts, so annoying.. anyway, here are some tips.

#1 Play with mouse and keyboard
- This will help you cut down on accidentally activating a fountain and its also easier to interrupt enemy spells this way.

I do hope they fix the controller or put in a way to prevent accidentally clicking Y to destroy a barrel or obstacle but activating a fountain instead, I rather play with a controller, its more fun to me.

#2 Get a shield and a way out.
- Getting a shield as soon as possible is a must! Once you encounter the skeleton archers around level 5 or 6, you will feel the pain of not having one.
Upgrade the shield to level 2 fast too, so your block chance goes from 30% to 50%.
Try and get that upgraded to 70% quick, dont wait for a magic shield, just do the regular one.

- A way out is a skill to quickly escape ambushes.
The enemies have ways to block your retreat, either some spiders will block you or a mage will teleport a bunch of mobs to surround you.

The warrior has the Mighty Blow, Charge and Throw spells.
The mage has Teleport and Cold Nova.
The rogue has the knock, leap and fear spells.

I would also suggest having level 3 boots or a way to quickly destroy obstacles but you can use other methods to get around them, the boots are optional.


#3 Prepare an emergency exit.
If for some reason you are out of space to run away to or mana to knock/stun your enemies away from you and you feel you are about to die, quickly go into the cards menu, this will slow down time enough for you to pick your health/recovery potion and heal. Then use your extra time to use a divine potion and then a return to town scroll if you need to get out. The slow down of time in the card menu and being able to use the items there without having to restore back time is a godsend in this mode.

#4 Get a sustainable health restoration system
- Find the Mana Amulet and the Heal spell and you will be set.
The only way you can die is if you get stuck and get hit by big enemies (like whopers) with criticals.
Upgrade both to level 2 as soon you can.


#5 Find a Fire weapon after the Cook and Find an Ice weapon before Hell.
- There is nothing as annoying as hitting an enemy forever because you dont have a weapon with their elemental weakness.

The Disenchant spell works too but I think its too costly mana wise and the cooldown is atrocious.

#6 Use a heavy hitter ability to take down enemies with Golden Hearts
- Golden Hearts make an enemy invulnerable after one hit and they also spawn annoying minions.
But the one hit doesnt have to be a 1 heart drain hit, you should have a skill or ability that hit for at least 3 hearts per hit, use these against these enemies.

Fire circles make their heart cooldown go faster.

Burning whoppers are annoying because you also need to get through their burning hearts to deal extra damage.

#7 Go big or Go home
- Getting a lot of rewards before the big fights is a must if you want to find those cards you need as well as health and mana scrolls to improve your pools. Always check the rewards vs the progress % and decide which size to take, sometimes but very rarely, a 2% progress would have 6 or more rewards, you should take this small size instead of a big one.


Choose your poison
I personally got this achievement playing Rogue but I feel all of them are equally capable of doing it.

The warrior has the armor that gives hearts and Throw has a stunning AOE that can do up to 6 damage, its awesome.

The mage has the golem that acts as a decoy, mana sphere that absorbs some hits and Ice Nova that can freeze enemies.

The rogue has fear and knock (stun aoe) to protect against ambush and the vampire gloves to get mana and health back (upgrade to lvl 3).

All of them can get the Shield, Mana amulet, heal and disenchant spells just fine.

Well, hope these tips help you get this rare achievement, I had a lot of fun and close calls with it and I had to start over 4 times because I accidentally clicked on some damn fountains in my panic, so, once again.. dying isnt so bad, its misclicks!!

If you have any other tips you might want to share feel free to leave a comment :)

Good luck to all and until next time!

7 Comments
vermis 21 Dec, 2020 @ 5:43am 
by editing custom_settings.txt you can change fountainsEnabled from 1 to 0, and then you can't accidentally click the fountains anymore. it's in the return2games folder
paszczureKk 14 Feb, 2019 @ 8:00am 
Each and every death costs 2 to the power of n-1 thousands. It's easy to notice 1000 gold (it's simply 2^0 * 1000) and everytime you die cost multiplies by 2.

That means, you need (2^9 + 2^8 + ... 2^1 + 2^0) * 1000. Simple math - it's (1024-1) K.

You need exactly 1.023.000 coins to afford only resurrections during that achievement.


Tips:
Mage is dependable on early cards loot. Try to save your potions for later and let golem tank most of the damage.

If you're running mana amulet, when golem dies - let the weakest enemy follow you. You could be able to dodge its attacks easily and this tricky move provides some nice mana regen.

Mage's robe is mostly underrated by new players (no offense). It's good to tier up it quickly. Combining it with orb and shield would do a job.

Spells providing hearts demotion and silence are great help.
Just pop-up silence spell and run towards your enemies - the less minions the better.
Hearts demotion should solve your fire spell lack.
LadySky89 13 Feb, 2019 @ 5:01pm 
I am almost at Anti-Pope and didn't find a shield yet... :P going ahead with Heal and amulets, golem is a nice help and Orb too, but versus archers Orbs are weak, consume too fast... still... I won't let it stop me, tho a shield would've been nice. I don't have a fire weapon, killed everything with normal bolts so far... I have a frost weapon ready for hell, but I doubt it will be of much help, I need to resummon it very often. I died only once so far, I hope to resist until the end to die again, then I will need to farm a lot of money to gether those 10 kills.... does anybody know how much money it takes to die 10 times? Better safe than sorry!
paszczureKk 26 Jan, 2019 @ 6:32pm 
Fair point but only legendary one can provide full healing due to its crit drop ratio, otherwise you'll run out of health sooner or later. Try to get that one, tank monsters' charged hits and just leave your cursor on your character. It works fine.
[N00B] Sc3r0 CZ 26 Jan, 2019 @ 6:03pm 
paszczureKk i have only crimson armor and i feel like with lifesteal :D no need for regen pendant but i just finish the story and start freeplay :-)
SoundsInsane 13 Jan, 2019 @ 8:23pm 
i Did this with a Controller, and believe me the miss clicks were annoying but i got around it...
LT +Y and LT is your friend ! i figured it was much safer than clicking

Any Survival through roguelike difficulty Requires a "Shield" "Boots" and "Amulet of Healing" least 2stars, the Rest of this can be a walk in the park if you got the skill for it. i almost had it pulling a All Nighter with a Sorceror not knowing what the Archdemon would pull..... (BIG MISTAKE)
Than i had to Do it ALL X_X, really really sucked, but when i did this all on Rogue, i Shattered this trophy x3, Didnt use Couldron, Didnt Die on all 3, and didnt use a single Fountain, (i even got a screenshot)

The Game tells ya alot, if you actually pay attention, i played blindly when i first played, started on Roguelike, and died alot, restarted, (than learned a ton more), than had to make a character to save the Flexescope, etc etc....

paszczureKk 24 Dec, 2018 @ 1:35pm 
To be honest, I highly recommend warrior class for this one. Amulet of life + bloody (crimson) armor combo is a great way to do it. Those two can make you immortal for quite a long way down there. Heal card would be great as well. 7 hearts every 2 seconds, plus extra if hit - broken. If you're not lucky enough to get those two, you can use potions less cautious due to 3rd level skeleton belt buff. Just equip your cards with this bad boy if you're low on healing source.