I'm an artist, sadly, I'm a performance artist. And um, I'm hired to um, for people to fulfill their fantasies, their deep dark fantasies. Um, but you know, these sessions, they don't all have to really involved. Some guy just want to put on leather, you know, a costumes for them, and, you know, they'll get off on that. You know, no pain involved and that's all right with me too, you know, uh, and then there's some, you know, like uh, some corporate bankers want to have, you know, welts on their back for three weeks, you know, they want scars back there, they want to, you know, they want to touch it at the office, you know, when they're really stressed out and they just want to get away from the reality,they'll reach back there and just touch, touch the, the pain, that Van just gave them, maybe a week ago. And just, escape for a little bit. Um, so, you know, all different type of clients.