Found this fucking gem on bandcamp today. I think i'm in love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8d80yb9StI

Feel the anger.

Florida Crust/Hardcore.

Centuries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_fqsQB5a3k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaQVQfTVOUY&t=74s

D-beat/Crust from Mother Russia

Fatum!

引用自 Grindcore Jim：

引用自 Kiirusk：

I don't see pop punk kids going out to protests against the right, or even changing their lifestyle in any way to stop enabling any particular agenda.

just eating pizza and being nihilistic little shits.

How i see Pop Punk is it being a gateway genre into the other forms of Punk music. Pop Punk uses forms of Hardcore Punk, then listeners listen to Hardcore, entering into crust or Grind or PV.

It has its uses.

It's sort of like Nu Metal. You want to forget about it but it was good to use if you want to gently push someone deeper into the genre and enjoy it slowly.

Though, Pop punk doesn't involve Limp Bizkit and FFDP, so personally, Pop Punk is on a higher level than it should be.

引用自 Kiirusk：

引用自 Grindcore Jim：

Wouldn't you say most punk music is about complaining about problems though?

I don't see pop punk kids going out to protests against the right, or even changing their lifestyle in any way to stop enabling any particular agenda.

just eating pizza and being nihilistic little shits.

How i see Pop Punk is it being a gateway genre into the other forms of Punk music. Pop Punk uses forms of Hardcore Punk, then listeners listen to Hardcore, entering into crust or Grind or PV.

It has its uses.

引用自 Kiirusk：

引用自 Grindcore Jim：

It's a part of the Punk genre, dude. Can't be an elitist forever.

Also, that escalated quickly.

it is the antithesis of punk.

it has nothing to do with any movement, its just angsty teens complaining about their petty problems.

Wouldn't you say most punk music is about complaining about problems though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ5zIARYBI4

Great choice to listen to.

引用自 Kiirusk：

die

It's a part of the Punk genre, dude. Can't be an elitist forever.

Also, that escalated quickly.

No Saints Row or GTA IV/V?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G0nQvUuBho