What country are you in? I'm not seeing that. My options are the same as they've always been.

same new menu here "Slovakia"
the second option looks exactly like old F&F
the third option looks different, with country selection and then with all possible fee calculator (sending from balance, bank account, card)

Here in Canada, it looks like the Friends & Family option has been restricted to Canadian dollars within Canada.

https://i.imgur.com/kvtyqtV.jpg

I just tried paying someone in France for a key from the $1 tier of a Humble Bundle and the fee was the amount of the transaction.

https://i.imgur.com/Q9OpkDZ.jpg

Needless to say, this is going to make it too expensive to pay for the low tier bundle splits; I guess I'll have to try to find people willing to trade wallet :(

RIP
https://gyazo.com/bb4e4912d05f75c18dcdfc3467563ef1

Yeah just spent the better part of an hour on the phone with paypal and they were not even sure what was going on. Said they were going to escalate it because I was paying a 1:1 fee on money sent up to $5 but after that, it didnt matter if I sent $10 or $10000 it was a $4.99 flat rate to send money via F&F. We may have to set up seperate group buys for each country if this crap keeps up:/

It was still fine for me yesterday evening in Europe. Will check again later.

Probably should have made a separate thread for this though, as this thread was about a different matter.

Nothing has changed here in the states. They've split off domestic from foreign payments, but if you're sending in USD, none of that matters. Extra fees only come in when there is currency conversion or you're sending to a bank account instead of another paypal account.

Originally posted by RePlay.be:

It was still fine for me yesterday evening in Europe. Will check again later.

Probably should have made a separate thread for this though, as this thread was about a different matter.

After re-reading, I think you are right. I am seeing the same new layout but am also having a similar issue to filmgoerjuan which is possibly a Canadian only thing.

Separate topic:
https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/groups/groupbuys/discussions/9/1483232961028701000/

Originally posted by penoo316:

After re-reading, I think you are right. I am seeing the same new layout but am also having a similar issue to filmgoerjuan which is possibly a Canadian only thing.

I guess so, it's Canada only

Sending Internationally

If you are a Canadian account holder sending money to a friend or family member with a PayPal account in a country other than Canada, you may pay a fee depending on how you pay and which country the recipient’s account is in.

https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/paypal-fees

Originally posted by SickTeddyBear:

Nothing has changed here in the states. They've split off domestic from foreign payments, but if you're sending in USD, none of that matters. Extra fees only come in when there is currency conversion or you're sending to a bank account instead of another paypal account.

Still not fixed for me. Appears to be targeted at Canadian accounts. For the past 1 year I have been able to send USD payments and receive USD payments. Usually there is a very small fee using Friends&Family of $0.01 to $0.03 for me, which is fine. I have a positive PayPal balance of $31.00 currently in USD funds.

This is what happens after Oct. 10 when I try to pay my friend $1.99 for a bundle split.

Logging into PayPal I select;

"Pay or send money" ->
"Send money to friends or family"
(There is no transaction fee when you use your bank account or PayPal balance to send Canadian dollars in Canada.)

https://i.imgur.com/2Pmaj81.jpg

As you can see they changed the text also. I can't avoid this fee. I have USD funds in my account available to send. I tried both USD -> USD and CAD -> USD. Both charge a fee equivalent to the Bundlesplit. Hopefully this changes.

Out of curiosity, have you folks tried using the regular payment option?

For sending USD, the max fee should be [1.06*cost +0.3$] -- use 1.07 to be on the safe side.

Originally posted by zmakad:

Out of curiosity, have you folks tried using the regular payment option?

For sending USD, the max fee should be [1.06*cost +0.3$] -- use 1.07 to be on the safe side.

Seems best to avoid the micro transactions if there is a fee everytime. I find it weird how the fee is equivilent from $0.01 to $4.99 where it caps. For example in the past I could purchase 1 game from a Tier 1 split for $0.33, send the payment via Friend and Family, it usually cost me $0.33 + $0.01 fee. Now I have a $0.33 payment + $0.33 fee (totalling $0.66). It seems match the payment amount until $4.99 where it caps. Even if I send $2.50 to someone now it will have a fee of Payment $2.50 + $2.50(fee). It kills the small transactions we use here. I may send a larger amount to someone with Goods and services for the smaller fee and the leftover as credit.

still the same paypal f+f here in california usa, sometimes small fee of 1-3 cents to certain countries ; cant speak for fees coming in however..

Originally posted by silly:

Seems best to avoid the micro transactions if there is a fee everytime.

F&F is not available in many countries so a good portion of us already do it this way.
Moreover, even in some of the places that do have F&F the fee exists -- it's just being paid from the sending side.

That is why when approached I recommend getting a total of at least 1$ or if its a T1 game from an active bundle then get it from HB itself.