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mm9m9m9m9m9 10 Jan, 2017 @ 10:52am
:controversy: HB Monthly split pricing. Should the early unlock at least match the highest priced?
Anyone else think the early unlock price should at LEAST match the highest price of the games people split?

Obviously, it might seem unfair, but people generally don't go selling these for $1 (even if it turns out to be unlisted as $0.40 or $1.60) or somehow half the cost of the mystery unlocks.

It also might push people not to sell the games here which is still beneficial to people here.. since it's still going to be cheaper.
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I was under the impression that a split usually results in desirable games being priced much higher than the rest of the bundle. In the case of XCom 2, it is not unreasonable to split it off at 4-5 dollars. That means the rest of the game in the bundle is valued at 7-8 total before splitting value depending on the desirability of each game when it unlocks later.

It is absolutely ludicrous to expect someone to split xcom 2 for less than 4 dollars. It retails for 59.99 and it is highly desirable.
Last edited by Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel; 10 Jan, 2017 @ 2:14pm
One Man Army 3 Feb, 2017 @ 7:39am 
Humble Bundle usually has one or two high value games that are in demand, so it's only logical that they are sold higher than the rest.
What you do outside of the group with your bundle, is of no concern.

From my understanding, you are allowed to split the bundle games in whatever price you see fit AS LONG AS you display the list of all the games with their respective prices,even the ones you took for yourself and the total does not exceed the original ~value of the bundle.
If a buyer wants to pay more on his own, obviously that's fine.
Ex. HB Monthly Bundle $12
XCOM2 $4 , GAME2 $3, GAME3 $2 , GAME4 $1.50 , GAME5 $1.50 = $12 Total.
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LUCY.ninos 3 Feb, 2017 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by One Man Army:
Ex. HB Monthly Bundle $12
XCOM2 $4 , GAME2 $3, GAME3 $2 , GAME4 $1.50 , GAME5 $1.50 = $12 Total.

Lately, early unlocked game is $5 - $6, and there is/are game/s that valued for $0.5 or $0.25

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Yeah, agree. I think early game unlocked to make customer interested on the bundle, so usually they put the best game in that month. Then it's normal if that game have high demand, normal if it's valued higher then other games.
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One Man Army 3 Feb, 2017 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by LUCY.ninos:
Originally posted by One Man Army:
Ex. HB Monthly Bundle $12
XCOM2 $4 , GAME2 $3, GAME3 $2 , GAME4 $1.50 , GAME5 $1.50 = $12 Total.

Lately, early unlocked game is $5 - $6, and there is/are game/s that valued for $0.5 or $0.25
That was just an example. As long as the total value of the bundle is not exceeded it should be fine.
RePlay.be 3 Feb, 2017 @ 8:19am 
If you're selling the cheaper games too, then that's fine. However you can't just sell the main game for a high price and keep the cheap games to yourself.
mm9m9m9m9m9 3 Feb, 2017 @ 8:41am 
I think a few of you understand or get what I meant. Generally what I've seen is people sell all the games except the early unlock, but it's almost $10 to $12, or for some weird reason Flame in the Flood is $4. I mean, if you want to split it like that, I don't care. Let everyone else do it then too and get away with it then.

My point is when 2 games are left out. Vermin and Project CARS at the time somehow were both $2.5 or something.

I basically think it's an "unfair" split to charge $3 for one game while the unlock is secretly either $1.7 or somehow $2.90 and the second is "$0.10".

Originally posted by Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel:
It is absolutely ludicrous to expect someone to split xcom 2 for less than 4 dollars. It retails for 59.99 and it is highly desirable.

I don't in any way expect someone to sell their early unlock. Nobody has to and my point isn't to say say "please sell it for cheap pleaseee", but they could adhere to the rules here. I still think it's fair and cheap to do it here and still beneficial. Enforcing what are probably looked as unfair would probably do more harm by pushing away splits.


The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky $3
Mother Russia Bleeds $2.2
Jotun $2.2
Neon Chrome $1.5
HoPiKo $0.90

Vermintide: unlisted
Project CARS: unlisted:


The two unlisted basically are both for $2.2. I vaguely recall a split priced like this because it felt abusing what is a fair split. Plus there was someone sold Flame in the Flood for $4 and gave a super smug response where they didn't have a problem selling it for that price when someone pointed out it being unfair.

All I'm saying is if you are going to charge $3 for an unlock, you could at least say Vermintide is worth at least $3 in your split.
One Man Army 3 Feb, 2017 @ 8:50am 
In the bundle split section, you are not allowed to sell a bundle's Tier that is not fully revealed.
For instance now with HB Bandai Namco, you can sell T1 and T3(Provided you give your BTA) but T2 pricing will have to wait until all games are revealed.

Imo a HB Monthly should not be allowed to be sold in the bundle split section, unless all contents are revealed.

Also you are obligated by the rules to list all prices for all the games of a bundle, including the ones you take for yourself. (I know sometimes people don't do this but it should be enforced for transparency's sake. If someone is price scamming, then noone will buy from him.)

If someone asks in the WTB section for a specific game, then you are free to negotiate.
It's just between you and him.
Last edited by One Man Army; 3 Feb, 2017 @ 9:01am
mm9m9m9m9m9 3 Feb, 2017 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by One Man Army:
In the bundle split section, you are not allowed to sell a bundle's Tier that is not fully revealed.
For instance now with HB Bandai Namco, you can sell T1 and T3(Provided you give your BTA) but T2 pricing will have to wait until all games are revealed.

Imo a HB Monthly should not be allowed to be sold in the bundle split section, unless all contents are revealed.

You are obligated by the rules to state all prices for all the games of a bundle, including the ones you take for yourself. (I know sometimes people don't do this but it should be enforced)

If someone asks in the WTB section for a specific game, then you are free to negotiate.
It's just between you and him.

A lot of people don't price the games they take (or in rare cases, taken because it's possible they buy the bundle without games and paid that price forit), yes. Sometimes I don't either actually.

Still, I'm not sure why you point out selling for games that aren't revealed. I know I made a thread, but I wasn't selling any of the games from T2 yet. They're only reservations so I could decide if I should have bought a 2nd to split (which I did because most of it filled). I sold T1+T3 games so far.

I think a majority of people don't sell until all games are revealed, though. Users usually point it out for people that don't know the rules or try to sell when all games aren't added, though.
One Man Army 3 Feb, 2017 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by mm9m9m9m9m9:
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Still, I'm not sure why you point out selling for games that aren't revealed. I know I made a thread, but I wasn't selling any of the games from T2 yet. They're only reservations so I could decide if I should have bought a 2nd to split (which I did because most of it filled). I sold T1+T3 games so far.
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It's not directed at you, I'm just pointing out the rules as I understand them.
The use of "you" is in general.
Taking reservations is fine, but you have to update with the new games and prices as soon as they are revealed, for transparency's sake.
Last edited by One Man Army; 3 Feb, 2017 @ 9:09am
mm9m9m9m9m9 3 Feb, 2017 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by One Man Army:
Originally posted by mm9m9m9m9m9:
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Still, I'm not sure why you point out selling for games that aren't revealed. I know I made a thread, but I wasn't selling any of the games from T2 yet. They're only reservations so I could decide if I should have bought a 2nd to split (which I did because most of it filled). I sold T1+T3 games so far.
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It's not directed at you, I'm just pointing out the rules as I understand them.
The use of "you" is in general.
Taking reservations is fine, but you have to update with the prices as soon as they are revealed, for transparency's sake.

I just thought it was a bit unrelated to the topic was all. I didn't exactly think it was pointed at me but I guess they are rules and that's topic enough. I also clarified what I did for sake of transparency. I just don't often see people split and sell bundles for a tier when all games en't revealed too much. I did see one user when I was looking if anyone was splitting the Bandai Namco bundle, though. Someone reminded that the rules don't allow it until all games are revealed. I do see prices that are skewered often enough that it seems unfair at times. "unfair" being in line with the $12 split.
One Man Army 3 Feb, 2017 @ 9:26am 
Ah now I see, your original post is referring to the ones selling the entire bundle except for the "main" games.

To be fair,in my opinion a HB Monthly should not be allowed to be sold in the bundle split section, unless all contents are revealed.

If someone wants to sell a bundle after the contents are revealed, except for one game or two, then they should still follow the procedure and state the list with all games prices as per usual.
They can display as $9 or $1 for one game if they want to,as long as the total is in line with the bundle's original value, but then it will be obvious the prices are not market fair compared to the rest of the people and noone will buy from them.

Fortunately the group is big enough that prices are settled at a fair value very fast, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Last edited by One Man Army; 3 Feb, 2017 @ 9:31am
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