Slightly reworked shotgun, also an accompanying pistol

The halved life
A weapon suitable for any free man
Secondary for soldier,heavy,pyro
Primary for engineer
(=)altfire to shoot two shots at once, but at half fire rate, 10% damage reduction, and 5% larger spread
(+)10% faster reload
(+)33% larger clipsize
(-)20% less pellets per shot
(-)20% longer deploy and holster time

The match
Standard civil peacekeeping firearm
Secondary for scout,engineer
(+)50% larger clipsize
(+)35% more accurate
(-)40% damage penalty
(=) 25% less reserve ammo on engineer, 416% more reserve ammo on scout (150 for both)

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Originally posted by Umbreon:

That's because you're not normally able to be robots in the actual gamemodes of TF2. Since in MvM You're always on red, you'll never actually see the robot spy as a teammate while it's disguised so..

ok?
im saying it makes your teammate look like an enemy and i have lost track of times its made be think theres an enemy.

HE just fucking told you that that is how it's coded. You can't do shit about it

Originally posted by Kafhet Thrynity:

Just a quick idea about the Flare Jumper
Take it back in the game but...
(-) take 150% more knockback while flare jumping
So you can counter his mobility by repulsing him

flare jumper was a better idea than the hot air balloon

Originally posted by Crafting | cTF2w:

Originally posted by Loreknight:

Did you know the tank takes the longest to build uber out of all mediguns, and it cannot be boosted by any other item, and that it's an uber for a reason.

Are you talking about the sheild? That isn't a Uber.. it even saids "Ubercharage stops at 99%"

The shield is healing based and only fiils up when healing hurt teammates (not including overhealing).

That's what i freaking meant, crafting. We still consider it the uber since it's the only powerful function.

It's barely powerful. Still waiting for you to turn it into uber instead of the current shit method.

Originally posted by CHAWLZ!:

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Why do you take more damage while in the air with hot air balloon?
Seems counterproductive.

Becuse the mobility provided by the Hot Air Balloon is extremely powerful. The speed you can gain mid-air using it makes it very easy to bumrush people, so Pyros should be punished for being blatant about it.

I have a major gripe with that thing.
"lets give pyro the most mobility out of all classes"
I just wish it didn't give as much pull force instead of faster ammo decrease.

I hate ammo nerfs. They are less of nerfs and are more just annoying and not fun
Decrease pull force by a good amount to replace the ammo nerf

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

IMO the tanks shield shouldnt damage.
Its way to easy to catch someone in a corner and fuck!ng destroy them

Did you know the tank takes the longest to build uber out of all mediguns, and it cannot be boosted by any other item, and that it's an uber for a reason.

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Possibly add a third person plugin like the ones in x10.

Third person is bad idea in tf2, as it gives an advantage against spies and effectively gives you a much larger fov

Originally posted by PureSalt DannyPlaysSomeGames:

Originally posted by Loreknight:

I just want it to be more proportional

DON'T. MAKE. IT. HARDER.

I swear, I was on a server today with around 10 people and we got stuck on the 5th wave untill map was like "screw it! they can't do it, so I'll force a map change."

i hate when maps do that

Originally posted by Crafting | cTF2w:

Originally posted by Loreknight:

That's why i said 15% for each player.
Technically, the most balanced would be nearly 17%, though. I did the math
since normally 6 players=100% at normal
100 divided by 6 is 16.666 repeating
round that, it's 17% per player.

So, you want it harder?

15% would make it 160% with 10 players

Currently it's set to 150% (with is 12.5%)

I just want it to be more proportional

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

If theres anything higher than advanced you might want to put it on that.
Its way to easy.
That or the balancer needs tweaking.

That's why i said 15% for each player.
Technically, the most balanced would be nearly 17%, though. I did the math
since normally 6 players=100% at normal
100 divided by 6 is 16.666 repeating
round that, it's 17% per player.