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It could be. If both team's carry are currently on stalemate or can't come up with a better strat, a 80 min game could happen.

A good techies can delay the game for that long too.

*Any Techies, not just good ones.

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Hey.

What?

Oui usually means hi. Used a u instead of just oi. But I assumed.

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That's always been a possible outcome, that's nothing new. Also, it's very unlikely that'll happen because each side doesn't just consist of a hard carry.

Oui.

Hey.

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Cool, I always thought the games took way too long.

It could be. If both team's carry are currently on stalemate or can't come up with a better strat, a 80 min game could happen.

That's always been a possible outcome, that's nothing new. Also, it's very unlikely that'll happen because each side doesn't just consist of a hard carry.

Bi.

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I'm getting DOTA again, anything I should know about the current meta?

Game is a lot faster than it used to be, a lot less farming, and games end faster. Around 30 minutes now. Int carries are also much more viable and TP scrolls cost 50 gold. Depending on when you were around, could have cost 135.

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Phantom Lancer is a poor pushing when it comes to hitting towers, and Shadow Shaman is a poor pusher when it comes to hitting creeps because of the cooldown on Ether Lightning. Nature's Prophet and Lone Druid, Windranger, and Leshrac are better pushers overall because they can quickly kill the creeps and the tower.

Woah woah. Shadow Shaman is one of the most excellent pushers. You don't necessarily need to kill creeps by yourself to quickly destroy towers, just let the creeps tank the tower blows so that the ward can melt down the tower. Phantom Lancer is considered a good pusher without any doubt. When you said that he lacks in "hitting towers" is a outright lie. Back before Alch and Naga were the two main illusion pushers (Radiance, Octarine, and Manta) PL hold some ground in the competitive scene.

I never said Shadow Shaman was a bad pusher. I said he was bad at taking down creep waves due to his slow attack speed and projectile, and not dealing enoough damage to make up for it with his auto attacks after the Ether Shock. I also never said Phantom Lancer was an overall bad pusher. I said he was bad at taking towers because he can't proc Juxtapose off them, which lowers his DPS a ton. Even if he can just hit it, with all the stat items he built up, it's still slow. You're the one who seems to be lying, claiming I'm calling these heroes bad pushers entirely, when I'm saying other wise, but mentioning they still have some flaws. Also, you don't seem to understand why PL was picked in the competitive scene. He was a solid hero, good fighter, farmer, and a nice pick if your team was hiding strats. Because he's just a generally solid hero who comes online early, but is still lethal lategame. But he's not absurdly good because of how easy he is to counter pick.

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You think Elder Titan counters Pudge and that you invented roaming Riki, and you don't seem to understand DotA very well.

ET kinda counters Pudge in matters of health. I never said that ET hard counters him. I believe on what I see.

Except Earth Splitter has a 3.14 second delay before it goes off. Pudge is slow, but he's more than capable of walking out of it, and Rot disrupts Elder Titan's unreliable way to make sure people get hit by Earth Spillter near impossible to use. Pudge has high magic resistance and low base armour. Which heavily weakens the impact of Natural Order's reductions on him. Elder Titan does overall low damage without his spirit's return boost, which makes Pudge's massive amount of health a nightmare to chip though. He can't force disengages as effectively against Pudge by making him run away or get slept with Echostomp cause of Rot, and Meat Hook. If you think Elder Titan counters Pudge, that's proof you're terrible and incompotent. Because that means you're in a tier that could happen. AKA a tier where people don't understand the game.

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Just cause you're incompotent doesn't mean everyone is.

How am I incompetent?

You think Elder Titan counters Pudge and that you invented roaming Riki, and you don't seem to understand DotA very well.

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Venomancer4dayz.

Plaugewards4dayz

How to annoy PA early game? Veno

Not really.