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LMAO, so a game where battles are decided based on the situation, situational advantages are unbalanced?

soldier beats scout in any situation with a flat surface he can spam on to splash scout
that's not situational advantage

I think you meant to say, "When the Soldier and Scout are in a confined space." AKA, cramped buildings. Otherwise it's a fair matchup, usually.

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Ever MGE'd against a Scout as Soldier on Badlands mid? It is very hard to beat a Scout as Soldier on that map. Gullywash mid, Soldier will usually win. It depends on the map.

But now consider the fact that almost every map developed for competitive (nowadays) greatly favors Scouts.

yes, and that's called "situation completely in scout's favor

and any map in the game have a shit ton of chokes, unless it's a koth

LMAO, so a game where battles are decided based on the situation, situational advantages are unbalanced?

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Moral of the story:

git gud

well
even i can play soldier and have a 2 kd

the problem is when you don't play soldier, his overpowerness becomes a problem

On a pub, I can have a 5 KD or greater on Soldier, it's a damn pub. Don't make this into a dick-measuring contest.

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Do I have to list every single button you have to press to play the game to you as well? I only mentioned the requirements for strafe aiming, not the movement you gotta pull off, which is also easy as sin.

strafe aiming is for killing ground classes with no splash damage weapon, like engie or some shit, playing against a soldier you have to be way better than him to beat him

Ever MGE'd against a Scout as Soldier on Badlands mid? It is very hard to beat a Scout as Soldier on that map. Gullywash mid, Soldier will usually win. It depends on the map.

But now consider the fact that almost every map developed for competitive (nowadays) greatly favors Scouts.

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There are other controls, strafe aiming just involves A and D, or do I have to tell you that to be a good scout you also have to press W to move forward, and spacebar to jump, and again to doublejump? Do I have to explain the entire list of keybindings in TF2 just so you can understand what I am saying you mongoloid?

yes, FINALLY man thank you

MY POINT PROVED, scout requires more skill than easy trafe aiming! thank you

But Soldier still sucks because oversimplification is only cool when I do it.

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Bitch strafe aiming is literally the easiest way to aim, you're talking out of your ass, I've been playing FPS since I was 6 (Which is amazing because I'm still pretty bad at them) and I guaren-fucking-tee you that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Go play an actually good game like Unreal Tournament, use strafe aiming instead of moving your mouse, see how easy it is.

yes, strafe aiming is easier than shooting big explosive rockets at a scout's feet when he is completely on the ground pressing a+d

If a Scout is being a big stupid then it is not my fault when shooting rockets at their feet is easy. But now try it against a Scout who can dodge.

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Strafe aiming is just keeping your mouse on the enemy, and if the soldier is focused on 1v1ing a scout then he's not gonna be as mobile as usual, easy fucking target.

I suck at aiming and even I could go on 50 killstreaks as Scout back in the day.

ha ha ha

best piece of bullshit i've ever heard

It's true though. If two Scouts are fighting it's just whoever can metronome faster with their shots/whoever can throw them off with jumping.

Damnit I really wish I could use muh experience as an argument

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Don't project. A Soldier won't always win in 1v1. If they are in an open space a Scout will win aganist a Soldier most of the time. Same with Heavy. It all depends on the skill of the Demo if a Demo is involved. As for Engie and the others, they are not DM classes. It's okay for them to suck at fighting face-to-face.

And contrary to popular belief, shooting the feet is not the best option. Direct hits do more damage, and good Soldiers can pull them off much more consistently than bad ones.

Also, consider the fact his burst damage is only great close up. A Scout at mid range who can hit the center of mass will have a higher DPS than a Soldier at mid range would.

we have to assume they have the same skill, yes b4nny scout will win muselk everyday but with the same skill, scout will likely lose a soldier unless the situation is 100% in his favor, demo have to land 2 direct pipes before soldier shoots 2 rockets at his feet

At mid range Soldier is at a disadvantage though. You listened to nothing I said. At mid range a Scout can avoid most of the damage from rockets. A demo is beefy and can both dodge and he can take the what, 50 damage rockets if they aren't direct at mid range?

This is why bombing is a strat. Because getting close is a key part to Soldier's gameplay.

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LOL WHAT

IT IS LITERALLY JUST STRAFE AIMING AND PLAYING LIKE YOU WOULD PLAY QUAKE.

Aiming takes skill even if the strategy is basic.
Plus you forgot sandman+guillotine.

You literally strafe left and right and shoot when it crosses an enemy. It is the easiest way to aim, there is little to no crosshair adjustment.