Originally posted by PB&J Toasted Terror:

Originally posted by Dapper Cadaver | trade.tf:

no, i play against soldier as competent player

500 hours lol

i have another accout 1400 hours
and stop judging by hours, unless it's less than about 400 doesn't matter

Originally posted by burnt sienna:

Originally posted by Dapper Cadaver | trade.tf:

we have to assume they have the same skill, yes b4nny scout will win muselk everyday but with the same skill, scout will likely lose a soldier unless the situation is 100% in his favor, demo have to land 2 direct pipes before soldier shoots 2 rockets at his feet

At mid range Soldier is at a disadvantage though. You listened to nothing I said. At mid range a Scout can avoid most of the damage from rockets. A demo is beefy and can both dodge and he can take the what, 50 damage rockets if they aren't direct at mid range?

This is why bombing is a strat. Because getting close is a key part to Soldier's gameplay.

mid range is the situation completely in scout or demo's favor, and pro soldier can dive bomb, which takes a loooot of skill

Originally posted by PB&J Toasted Terror:

Originally posted by Dapper Cadaver | trade.tf:

strafe aiming?
soldier can just spam at your feet, 2 rockets and you are dead

and even if it's just strafe aiming, it's way harder than shooting rockets at people's feet

do you ever play soldier against competent players

no, i play against soldier as competent player

Originally posted by burnt sienna:

Originally posted by Dapper Cadaver | trade.tf:

well
soldier have no counter except other soldiers, can't be beaten with skill from some classes like heavy, if he have the high ground you are pretty much fucked

high dps, high burst damage, highest mobility, 200 hp, with a disposible medic in the ass, barely require skill to do a shit ton of damage, if have some alf decent skill becomes unstoppable


a class should not be like this, always ALWAYS win 1v1 fight, perfectly counter scout, demo, heavy, engie and all the support classes

it's the most luck rewarding class in the game, and skill doesn't even matter much on him
the class similar to him, demoman, requires good pipe aim, soldier? depends how good are you at shooting explosive rockets at people's feet

Don't project. A Soldier won't always win in 1v1. If they are in an open space a Scout will win aganist a Soldier most of the time. Same with Heavy. It all depends on the skill of the Demo if a Demo is involved. As for Engie and the others, they are not DM classes. It's okay for them to suck at fighting face-to-face.

And contrary to popular belief, shooting the feet is not the best option. Direct hits do more damage, and good Soldiers can pull them off much more consistently than bad ones.

Also, consider the fact his burst damage is only great close up. A Scout at mid range who can hit the center of mass will have a higher DPS than a Soldier at mid range would.

we have to assume they have the same skill, yes b4nny scout will win muselk everyday but with the same skill, scout will likely lose a soldier unless the situation is 100% in his favor, demo have to land 2 direct pipes before soldier shoots 2 rockets at his feet

Originally posted by Geech:

Originally posted by Dapper Cadaver | trade.tf:

at least scout require a shit ton of skill

LOL WHAT

IT IS LITERALLY JUST STRAFE AIMING AND PLAYING LIKE YOU WOULD PLAY QUAKE.

strafe aiming?
soldier can just spam at your feet, 2 rockets and you are dead

and even if it's just strafe aiming, it's way harder than shooting rockets at people's feet

Originally posted by PB&J Toasted Terror:

Originally posted by Dapper Cadaver | trade.tf:

at least scout require a shit ton of skill

scout has the lowest skill floor in the game

nonsense
it's heavy, and then soldier, if not counting medic which doesn't require "skill" at all, gamesense is all you need

Originally posted by PB&J Toasted Terror:

Originally posted by Dapper Cadaver | trade.tf:

well
soldier have no counter except other soldiers, can't be beaten with skill from some classes like heavy, if he have the high ground you are pretty much fucked

high dps, high burst damage, highest mobility, 200 hp, with a disposible medic in the ass, barely require skill to do a shit ton of damage, if have some alf decent skill becomes unstoppable


a class should not be like this, always ALWAYS win 1v1 fight, perfectly counter scout, demo, heavy, engie and all the support classes

it's the most luck rewarding class in the game, and skill doesn't even matter much on him
the class similar to him, demoman, requires good pipe aim, soldier? depends how good are you at shooting explosive rockets at people's feet

scout is better than soldier

at least scout require a shit ton of skill

valve should make himmore skill dependent, nerf his damage if you want him to be an area damage role, nerf his explosion radious if you want him to be damage output role, or make his rockets harder to aim, like demo's pipes, it can do less damage on non-direct hits, he is so op now, you can't even play half the classes when they have a half decent soldier

well
soldier have no counter except other soldiers, can't be beaten with skill from some classes like heavy, if he have the high ground you are pretty much fucked

high dps, high burst damage, highest mobility, 200 hp, with a disposible medic in the ass, barely require skill to do a shit ton of damage, if have some alf decent skill becomes unstoppable


a class should not be like this, always ALWAYS win 1v1 fight, perfectly counter scout, demo, heavy, engie and all the support classes

it's the most luck rewarding class in the game, and skill doesn't even matter much on him
the class similar to him, demoman, requires good pipe aim, soldier? depends how good are you at shooting explosive rockets at people's feet

soldier=op
somehow the area damage class became the easiest dps class while having 20 hp

what the fuck