I feel like Skyrim shouldn't even be in that category. It hasn't had any time to test against.

I personally thought the 5 more minutes award would've gone to a TBS game, but I guess CS:GO will do.

The guy in Off Topic whos entire argument was "lol TLDR".

Originally posted by Horologium:

Originally posted by Sir Illic:

By eagle do you mean their standard? Because I read in a book that generals would throw their standards into the enemy so the roman soldiers will fight harder, but I find that hard to believe if loss of the standard lead to the legion being disbanded.

I think that was the point, you would fight for the standard back or die/disband trying.

Yeah but it sounds incredibly risky for the general who threw the standard. If he doesn't throw the standard he can at least come back later if he loses.

Originally posted by You've made a grave mistake:

Originally posted by Sir Illic:

See, this is why I said you weren't a shitposter.

Being a shitposter doesn't mean you can't use logic or write an alternate bee movie script.
after all the majority of us (shitposters) Love to troll and bait, and also flame. (^:

Still, Amsel seems to make posts like this on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Amsel :D:

Originally posted by Sir Illic:

obsessed with being the best in games

I know that feel.

It probably stems from the way society is shaped, so that there is no obvious outlet for any desire for self-improvement. There are no more obvious careers that you can sink all of your will to power into, and end up a millionaire. Or mentally stable women women, who want a reliable husband to start a family with.

In order to be fun, in the long term, video games need to be player vs player - for example, see how quickly MVM phased out. In order to not get stale a game needs to be fairly well balanced, so they're designed to be as even as possible. Then once the developers start making "balance updates"; it becomes a serious discussion of making things "fair". Having players actively talking about what makes a game fair inevitably leads to them trying to develop the most advanced meta possible, and how to really push the game to the max. To clarify, people have always tried to do the most optimal things in games, but not to the extent we see today.
The people who are best inclined to do what is prescribed by the developed meta game end up becoming celebrities within that community.

So imagine yourself a young man, around 16-23 years old, and you have no outlet for bettering yourself. Schools have been turned into daycare centers, so you'd have to get a masters degree to make it worth your while. Families have been all but abolished, thanks to the hyper-materialism, and rampant degeneracy our society is so fond of. Careers have turned into getting a part time job - if you're lucky. Then you go to play a video game, a common means of escapism, and then you see all these people getting praised for doing so well. You're caught up in this and want to join them. You can't make yourself or your family proud, but you can be respected by some people in a game you like.

Now you spend hours scouring forums for tips, writing sticky notes, reading 100 page guides, and watching some replays/streams of top players. You test out different strategies, ways to get to the objective faster, how to do the most mathematically efficient thing possible. You do all of this and cram your mind with days worth of studying game mechanism, everything you could get your hands on; and then you jump online, to play a game, and then - you lose.

You spent so much time studying to get better at the game, and got so motivated to be a great player, that the game effectively became another work. Reading the scribblings of some asian guy who won a tournament 5 years ago isn't fun. The game stopped being a healthy escapism; and instead, because of the inability to accomplish anything in the real world, you put effort into that game like you would raising a family or proving to your boss that you deserve a promotion. All of that gone to waste, because of the simple fact that in a fair and balanced game - one team always loses.

See, this is why I said you weren't a shitposter.

I agree with... Pretty much all of it actually. I feel like esports created this mentality of "if I'm the best then everyone will like me", rather than a mentality of "I'm just gonna sit down and unwind" that video games always brought me.

Originally posted by Littlefoot:

Originally posted by Sir Illic:

I've heard that a lot of people have become obsessed with being the best in games that put a lot of emphasis on esports, and it causes them to get pretty toxic when they start losing.

Right, that explains a whole lot. Must be one of the reasons CS: GO has such a toxic community.

I mean, I'd put money on that.

Tell him to bug off.

Originally posted by Amsel :D:

Originally posted by Sir Illic:

You got a pic? That sounds cute.

http://i.imgur.com/OZryBEo.jpg

Hey, that's pretty good.

Originally posted by Littlefoot:

Originally posted by Panic:

Here's my ones for the whatever time:
- Competitive and esports are killing multiplayer games

Just wondering, how do you reason here? To me, esports give MP games more exposure and makes people more likely to get interest in them, and as such buying them.

I've heard that a lot of people have become obsessed with being the best in games that put a lot of emphasis on esports, and it causes them to get pretty toxic when they start losing.

Since ye heretics and infidels love lists, here's mine:
-Revenge of the Sith was pretty good, on par with Return of the Jedi
-The WW1 French uniforms, as well as most of the Napoleonic era uniforms, look better than anything the Nazis pumped out (sorry wehraboos)
-Micheal Bay's movies are good to watch for fun every now and then (yeah they're dumb, but that's kinda why I like them)
-Family Guy isn't funny
-Modern music isn't bad (may or may not be an unpopular opinion)
-RWBY has decent animation
-The Tiger was a pretty crap tank
-F2P can work well
-Reddit > 4chan