Originally posted by Sir Illic:

Originally posted by robomagon:

Since the old NWVault is gone (thanks IGN), the community's moved to here:
https://neverwintervault.org/

Does it have an offline version? I haven't gotten a chance to play it yet, but according to Wikipedia it's an MMO.

Or maybe I'm thinking of Baldur's Gate as the D&D single player game.

The online could have MMO-like features, depending on the game being hosted. I didn't play online much, I normally just played the single-player official campaigns and community created modules. EA turned off the MP servers a couple of years ago, I think there's some workarounds online.

If anyone is interested in giving it a go, ignore the bad main campaign, play the Shadows of Undrentide campaign, and export your character to Hordes of the Underdark.

Originally posted by dino_inc:

Originally posted by robomagon:

Deportation

Mexicans

Food.

Originally posted by Dr. Raven:

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

99.99% of all the other games on Steam are not developed or published by Valve. Even as retarded as most boycotts are, you'd have to be extra fucking special to stop playing or buying games on Steam because of one single disappointment.



You think no one would buy a Battlefield game after B4, B:HL or Star Wars Battlefield? Glad you weren't there to warn EA that Battlefield 1 was going to be a sales bomb.

There was no mass-exodus when paid mods happened, it didn't happen with the Christmas log-in fuck ups last year, didn't happen when they mistakenly banned 10K COD players from their game, didn't happen when they made CS: Condition Zero, didn't happen when they killed Day of Defeat. The list of Valve fuck-ups go on, next to no one is going to drop Steam if Half Life 3 is bad.

I agree you'd have to be extra special to quit steam because of one disappointment, but I always thought gamers can be extra special at times. I mean people sent death threats to developers over the mass effect 3 ending and that's just an ending, not the game as a whole.



Now steam is a massive thing right now. I don't think they could kill steam in any way possible except by breaking everything and someone coming along offered better for cheaper. But that said. I think it's very possible people will leave because of one bad game. Call of Duty as a franchise took a hit with their latest game, and well even though it was one of the best selling games of the year they still lost half their audience. Do you think that audience is gonna return when they release their next game?


Obviously Steam and Valve isn't call of duty but the same can apply to them. If customers feel betrayed they can and will most likely leave because that's how some gamers are. They're petty and if they feel a company betrayed them they'll try their hardest to strike back.

Steam and Valve aren't Call of Duty though, you can buy thousands of games off Steam and none of them by Valve. I'd think that people old enough to still care about Half Life would recognise that Half Life isn't the whole of PC gaming or Steam by now.

If HL3 did somehow push people away from PC gaming, that number is going to be replaced in a matter of hours.

Valve aren't doing Half Life 3 because it will cause people to leave Steam. It makes no sense, Steam is not a subscription model, or a platform with upfront costs to join.

Originally posted by gabrum01:

Originally posted by Colonel "Festive" Cosmetic:

dog

almost killed my sister

Deserved it.

Originally posted by Dr. Raven:

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

No, people aren't going to leave Steam en masse if HL3 fails to meet expectations. It didn't happen with the many, many other high-profile failures, it's not going to happen with HL3.

We don't even know if impossible expecations are the reason, I think it's more likely that Valve aren't interested in making new games, when the hat economy is doing it for them.

It's a bit different than when a normal game releases on steam. Valve is directly responsible for it.

99.99% of all the other games on Steam are not developed or published by Valve. Even as retarded as most boycotts are, you'd have to be extra fucking special to stop playing or buying games on Steam because of one single disappointment.

All that needs to happen is Valve needs to get on the hate bandwagon list, if that catches on I do expect people to look for other options over steam. I mean considering what they've been doing to TF2, CS:GO, having bad support, being what most consider a lazy company. Simply a bad game could shove fans over to hating them because often gamers are irrational and full of hate.

You think no one would buy a Battlefield game after B4, B:HL or Star Wars Battlefield? Glad you weren't there to warn EA that Battlefield 1 was going to be a sales bomb.

There was no mass-exodus when paid mods happened, it didn't happen with the Christmas log-in fuck ups last year, didn't happen when they mistakenly banned 10K COD players from their game, didn't happen when they made CS: Condition Zero, didn't happen when they killed Day of Defeat. The list of Valve fuck-ups go on, next to no one is going to drop Steam if Half Life 3 is bad.

Originally posted by Krinkov:

Originally posted by Fear and Loathing in New Vegas:

if we lose 20 more members we should delete group

FTFY.

Group dead, delete group.

Originally posted by nicoper:

Originally posted by merry puur:

mate csgo now has glove skins
do you really think they care about making quality content at this point

CS:GO is a great source of income for Valve - they can make new content easily and get a constant stream of money in to fuel other projects.

Yeah, like VR. But it looks like they're giving up on new games. A new Half Life game is going to compete with someone else's FPS game. Valve probably wants out of games, and remain a mostly distribution service.

No, people aren't going to leave Steam en masse if HL3 fails to meet expectations. It didn't happen with the many, many other high-profile failures, it's not going to happen with HL3.

We don't even know if impossible expecations are the reason, I think it's more likely that Valve aren't interested in making new games, when the hat economy is doing it for them.

Originally posted by robomagon:

No u.

I'm proud of never having changed my name.

Why is that something to be proud of?