Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Originally posted by Kptn Howdy:

Steam is still a DRM.

I could buy FTL, or the Witcher, or any game from the list below, and play them on any machine, even without Steam:

http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

What about Steam itself that makes it DRM, exactly?

The fact that you need to sign up and agree to their terms.

Origin is a DRM

Uplay is a DRM

Battle.net is a DRM

Any online storefront that forces you to have to be logged in/online to play games is a DRM

If it wasn't a DRM, you wouldn't have to be using specific storefronts to use the games, you'd just be able to start them up from your machine whenever you want.

Originally posted by robomagon:

Originally posted by Kptn Howdy:

Steam is still a DRM.

Steamworks is also a DRM

But steam is a DRM too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management
No it isn't. Steam is just a store.

Whatever you say. I'm done arguing

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Originally posted by Kptn Howdy:

Steam itself is a DRM.

You have to have steam to buy games, don't ya?

What? If I buy off GOG, is GOG now DRM?

Steam itself is not DRM. Steamworks can be, but not always.

Steam is still a DRM.

Steamworks is also a DRM

But steam is a DRM too

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Originally posted by Kptn Howdy:

Actually, steam is a DRM in itself

Steamworks is optional DRM. There are games on Steam that don't use it.

Steam itself is a DRM.

You have to have steam to buy the games on it, don't ya?

Originally posted by The Extreme Potato:

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Everything on Steam is actually DLC.

Did I just blow your mind?

Bro, technically steam itself is just dlc.

Actually, steam is a DRM in itself

Originally posted by a rebel from southern pakistan:

the crate & key system, i will do a complete list of games that fucking have it
it was originally from tf2, not its everywhere

tf2
cs:go
unturned
payday2
robocraft
overwatch
paladins

Overwatch, Paladins, Payday 2 all don't use a key+crate system.

Originally posted by a rebel from southern pakistan:

payday: not cosmetic (pay2win)

Payday 2 doesn't give anything to win. They're solely cosmetic now. All they add are attachements/stat boosts that are obtainable in the game by the card drops. Stop talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by robomagon:

Originally posted by Sᴘᴏᴏᴘʏ Hᴀᴍ:

Last time I checked MMO's were mostly PVE with optional/endgame PVP

Last time I checked MMO's were mostly PVP with some PVE tacked on just so PVPers can find people to gank.

Except not

was good

now it sucks

Originally posted by Fanshi:

Originally posted by Fork_Q2:

Fine, "What's shit about videogames in recent times"?

Lack of originality

You go create a new genre or something original

people pre-ordering everything

Originally posted by DuckScout:

Everyone here is prolly shit tbh

I did Steel



am I gud yet