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The Extreme Potato 27 Aug, 2016 @ 2:56am
Rant: Everything wrong with Bethesda
Possible spoilers for Bethesda games
  • They are still using the same engine they used in Morrowind. I wish I was joking but I'm not. They are using the same buggy, broken engine they used for a game from 2002
  • They nearly caused Obsidian to go bankrupt. For those of you that don't know, Bethesda promised Obsidian a large bonus if New Vegas got 85+ as a metacritic score. New Vegas got 84 due to a buggy release. You know why it was buggy? Because Bethesda forced Obsidian into an early release so they couldn't iron out the bugs. Obsidian had financial trouble shortly after that.
  • People give them a free pass for making buggy, broken games. "Oh, it's Bethesda game. They're usually buggy, it's fine". No, it's not fine. Bethesda shouldn't be allowed to release games in such an unplayable state and rely on the community to fix them without some kind of backlash.
  • Their story writing is some of the worst I have seen. They completely disregard lore set in previous games to make poorly written, nonsensical stories. Fallout 3 felt like a badly written fanfic, with the supermutants and need for water being ripped straight out of Fallout 1 and the Enclave being ripped straight out of Fallout 2. Not to mention the actual reasoning for the factions being there is beyond stupid and the fact there is literally no evidence of people actually needing this purified water.
  • They don't actually make RPGs. In my mind, a RPG is something like Fallout 2. A game that gives the player plenty of choice, so they can react according to how they think their character would react, and will then give you consequences for these choices. Bethesda games do nothing like that. You are given no choice on how to approach a something, you have to do it the way the game tells you to. And you never learn what the consequences of your actions are. You waltz in, do a quest and waltz back out again without any repercussions.
  • People are praising them for the new Doom and Wolfenstein: New Order. They didn't make them! They were made by ID Software and Machine games retrospectively. Bethesda had no part in making those games, stop crediting them for things they didn't do.
  • They have one of the worst fan bases I've ever seen. Bethesdrones cannot take the slightest bit of criticism of their favourite company. They won't even bother trying to disprove the argument or make a counter argument, they'll just call you a fanboy of a different company and act like that invalidates all your points.
I would go on but I have better things to do then ♥♥♥♥♥ about Bethesda all day.
/rant
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Littlefoot 27 Aug, 2016 @ 2:59am 
*Not to mention they with no warning added an online only requirement once Vulkan support was implimented into Doom 4.
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76561198162727631 27 Aug, 2016 @ 3:00am 
Ahh...the classic Id and Brthesda switcheroo...
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Duckilous 27 Aug, 2016 @ 3:01am 
You should post this somewhere that has a bigger audience. Spot on.
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76561198162727631 27 Aug, 2016 @ 3:02am 
Originally posted by A Terribly Charismatic Duck:
You should post this somewhere that has a bigger audience. Spot on.
Post it on DooM forums.
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Duckilous 27 Aug, 2016 @ 3:07am 
Originally posted by Pepsimaaaaaaaaa- man of pepsi:
Originally posted by A Terribly Charismatic Duck:
You should post this somewhere that has a bigger audience. Spot on.
Post it on DooM forums.
That's one example.
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76109108007942031 27 Aug, 2016 @ 3:12am 
That New Vegas thing especially irritates me. Even if they didn't do it to screw up Obsidian, releasing a game before the bugs are fixed feels like an EA-level cash grab.
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SleepyNBDisaster 27 Aug, 2016 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by The Extreme Potato:
They nearly caused Obsidian to go bankrupt. For those of you that don't know, Bethesda promised Obsidian a large bonus if New Vegas got 85+ as a metacritic score. New Vegas got 84 due to a buggy release. You know why it was buggy? Because Bethesda forced Obsidian into an early release so they couldn't iron out the bugs. Obsidian had financial trouble shortly after that.
That is shady as hell.
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Dr. Raven 27 Aug, 2016 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by The Extreme Potato:
  • They don't actually make RPGs. In my mind, a RPG is something like Fallout 2. A game that gives the player plenty of choice, so they can react according to how they think their character would react, and will then give you consequences for these choices. Bethesda games do nothing like that. You are given no choice on how to approach a something, you have to do it the way the game tells you to. And you never learn what the consequences of your actions are. You waltz in, do a quest and waltz back out again without any repercussions.
Bethesdia games are more rpg-ish than 90% of rpgs I've played. I mean if we're gonna say in order for something to be like an RPG it has to be like Fallout 2 then I haven't seen a "real" rpg since, well, forever. Apparently phantom brave isn't an rpg because choices aren't present. RPG is such a vague term and I guess everyone has their own definition of what it should be.


I mean RPG to most is just a role playing game. You're playing the role of a character, not necessarily your own. But that's too vague a term, because everything can be an rpg then so long as it gives you enough choices. So most people lump in that it's heavily stat and level focused, with character growth, building being a key part of the gameplay. In fact, to most people that's what makes an RPG an RPG, I don't believe the first is essential, otherwise I wouldn't consider anything short of dungeons and dragons an rpg.
Last edited by Dr. Raven; 27 Aug, 2016 @ 4:07am
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Stake from Jate Farm 27 Aug, 2016 @ 5:13am 
Creation, from what I could gather, is not, nor is it based on, Gamebyro.
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The Extreme Potato 27 Aug, 2016 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by Stake from Jate Farm:
Creation, from what I could gather, is not, nor is it based on, Gamebyro.
It's a heavily modified version of that engine. That still makes it the same engine.
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Stake from Jate Farm 27 Aug, 2016 @ 5:23am 
Originally posted by The Extreme Potato:
Originally posted by Stake from Jate Farm:
Creation, from what I could gather, is not, nor is it based on, Gamebyro.
It's a heavily modified version of that engine. That still makes it the same engine.

I couldn't find anything linking the two in any way, aside from them both being used by Bethesda.
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The Extreme Potato 27 Aug, 2016 @ 5:48am 
Originally posted by Stake from Jate Farm:
Originally posted by The Extreme Potato:
It's a heavily modified version of that engine. That still makes it the same engine.

I couldn't find anything linking the two in any way, aside from them both being used by Bethesda.
Ah, I misread the wiki artical. It's based on gamebyro.

However, the point still stands as they used the same engine up until skyrim.
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Stake from Jate Farm 27 Aug, 2016 @ 5:54am 
Originally posted by The Extreme Potato:
Originally posted by Stake from Jate Farm:

I couldn't find anything linking the two in any way, aside from them both being used by Bethesda.
Ah, I misread the wiki artical. It's based on gamebyro.

However, the point still stands as they used the same engine up until skyrim.

K.
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uromastyx 27 Aug, 2016 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by The Extreme Potato:
They have one of the worst fan bases I've ever seen. Bethesdrones cannot take the slightest bit of criticism of their favourite company. They won't even bother trying to disprove the argument or make a counter argument, they'll just call you a fanboy of a different company and act like that invalidates all your points.
I mean, I'm a huge fanboy of the Fallout series, and I sort of agree with what you're saying.
Last edited by uromastyx; 27 Aug, 2016 @ 7:20am
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The Extreme Potato 27 Aug, 2016 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by SirDowner211:
Originally posted by The Extreme Potato:
They have one of the worst fan bases I've ever seen. Bethesdrones cannot take the slightest bit of criticism of their favourite company. They won't even bother trying to disprove the argument or make a counter argument, they'll just call you a fanboy of a different company and act like that invalidates all your points.
I mean, I'm a huge fanboy of the Fallout series, and I sort of agree with what you're saying.
You haven't been on the Fallout 4 forums, the fanboys there tear apart any thread that criticises Bethesda to the point where is had to be locked or deleted.
My favourite is one guy who thinks he's the batman of the forums. Shitposting in the New Vegas forums to protect the Fallout 4 forums from the "Obsidian Trolls".
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