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So in order to play any multiplayer I can join any existing server and that would work just fine.

Setting up a "normal" listen server from inside Opposing Force won't allow others to connect and is "officially" broken with no fix in sight.

Installing Dedicated Server from the Tools list will not show Opposing Force on the game type menu.I'm a little unclear if I need Dedicated Server installed when I run the hldsupdate tool. I'm guessing it will re-download HL and OP4 so it would show up on the list finally (and hopefully work.

If I don't have Dedicated Server installed when I run the hlds update tool, it will download to a folder I specify (could be anywhere). Is that sufficient to start the server? Do I use hlds update tool to launch the server or will it be hl.exe as usual?

I'm going to try with DS installed, then run the update tool to pull opforce("gearbox") down into the DS folder, then launch DS and hopefully start my server from there.

Thanks for your help. I think I'm pretty close to understanding this now.

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If I start the in-game server nobody can join me. So I figured thats just broken. Wonder when someone's going to fix it.

So as a workaround, I try the Dedicated Server, but that doesn't even list Opposint Force. Why not and can I get it on the list without too much fuss?

Thirdly what the heck is this hlds update tool? Does it actually need to download something once installed? (I already have OpFor installed and it has that listenserver that doesn't let people join) Does this tool fix the Dedicated Server program in the steam tools list? I don't quite understand why this tool is needed at all other than just someone said so.

I wonder if I just copy the current gearbox folder over to the dedicated server\gearbox folder I might not need the tool, but I remember trying that years ago and not having much success.

Anyway still a bit confused as all these other games are on the list. How did they get there? hlds update tool wasn't used for them, it was part of the Dedicated Server install.

Hopefully someone can explain most or all of these things.

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