Online Safety Act
The final straw that broke the camels back
Time to dump steam once and for all
Steam has bent over more than expected for the OSA, and expect this to become more than it currently is, what happens next, new game with gore, death and killing is now break the OSA rules, Steam and the developers will lose out, $10B company can't fight this?
20+ veteran of steam and I need a credit card to prove my age?
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Valve is required to follow the law to do business there.

The options add the verification
Block the games in question (like they did for Germany)
Or stop doing any form of business there.

Valve has no say in laws put in place in other countries. No amount of money changes that.

This has been covered many many time already.
Good bye.
if they dont do it they will get blocked in uk, uk citzen need to fight online safety act if they dont want it
Bazz 5 Sep @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by d3str0y3r:
Valve is required to follow the law to do business there.

The options add the verification
Block the games in question (like they did for Germany)
Or stop doing any form of business there.

Valve has no say in laws put in place in other countries. No amount of money changes that.

This has been covered many many time already.

Problem is, the OSA isn't just about blocking certain material, Clause 122 allows OFCOM to break end-to-end encryption, force companies to scan for prohibited content etc.
This is not only a invasion of privacy but also as part of their mass-surveillance of law abiding citizens

Covered many times before? So what am I not allowed to have an opinion or are you now not allowing free speech like the current Government?
You can have an opinion in one of the active threads. We don't need another......
Bazz 5 Sep @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by Hesienburger:
if they dont do it they will get blocked in uk, uk citzen need to fight online safety act if they dont want it

It'll need big companies to fight for it, not the lonely old UK citizen, we have no power over these things
There was a petition to repeal this, but it was rejected, typical from an authoritarian Government we have now
Bazz 5 Sep @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by Beardface31:
You can have an opinion in one of the active threads. We don't need another......

If you don't like, don't respond, like everything else in life, you have a choice
Originally posted by Bazz:
Originally posted by Hesienburger:
if they dont do it they will get blocked in uk, uk citzen need to fight online safety act if they dont want it

It'll need big companies to fight for it, not the lonely old UK citizen, we have no power over these things
There was a petition to repeal this, but it was rejected, typical from an authoritarian Government we have now

What makes you think Valve has any power over another countries laws.
has nothing to do with valve and more to do with CC's, activist groups and apparently the EU and more directly, the UK.

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/12/601914519534685754/

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Originally posted by Bazz:
Originally posted by Hesienburger:
if they dont do it they will get blocked in uk, uk citzen need to fight online safety act if they dont want it

It'll need big companies to fight for it, not the lonely old UK citizen, we have no power over these things
There was a petition to repeal this, but it was rejected, typical from an authoritarian Government we have now

I hate to tell you but this was started by one government and finished by another. Meaning both the left and right governments in the UK both support the OSA. There is zero chance that it will be stopped.

If you want to find out what authoritarian really means then you need to go to North Korea or Russia. There are some places in this world where you can wind up dead because you didn't cry, or smile, or clap loud enough when expected. And the treatment can be horrifically cruel.
Last edited by Pocahawtness; 6 Sep @ 6:04am
Originally posted by Bazz:
like everything else in life, you have a choice

Not everything in life is by choice. Sometimes you are just forced to do things etc. Freedom is an illusion.
You'll be missed. Maybe?
Originally posted by Bazz:
Originally posted by d3str0y3r:
Valve is required to follow the law to do business there.

The options add the verification
Block the games in question (like they did for Germany)
Or stop doing any form of business there.

Valve has no say in laws put in place in other countries. No amount of money changes that.

This has been covered many many time already.

Problem is, the OSA isn't just about blocking certain material, Clause 122 allows OFCOM to break end-to-end encryption, force companies to scan for prohibited content etc.
This is not only a invasion of privacy but also as part of their mass-surveillance of law abiding citizens

Covered many times before? So what am I not allowed to have an opinion or are you now not allowing free speech like the current Government?
Valve cannot break the law for their own purposes.
If a country requires something, Valve either has to follow that law, or they cannot operate in that country.

Germany requires ID for access to adult games, Valve cannot and will not hold onto ID data due to privacy issues.

The UK accepts having a credit card (not bank card) on the account as age verification, as you have to be 18+ to obtain a credit card in the UK.

Since Valve already takes credit cards as a payment method, there is no extra work needed.
In Germany's case, it would require time and money that isn't worth spending for something that Valve has no right to anyway.
Originally posted by Hesienburger:
if they dont do it they will get blocked in uk, uk citzen need to fight online safety act if they dont want it
UK citizens can be "encouraged" to stand up to tyranny and the nanny state if their favorite products suddenly become unavailable.
BPC 12 Sep @ 10:09am 
The law is to verify a users age. If we've had accounts for 20 years then our age is automatically verified. The need for a credit card is absurb, unless it is not about age verification at all.
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