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The Last Spiritual Bout: Why the Rapture has to happen the way it does
First off, in writing this message I do not claim to have received a vision, a dream, or have acquired this information from somebody else and in fact it’s something I want to touch on since no one else is speculating on this, so this is all theories and mere speculations on my part as a true believer in Christ though I will try to write this all in 1k(ish) words for convenience.

Getting the rapture out of the way, the reason why that fateful day happens in which both dead and alive believers are reunited with God is because he promised that day would come sometime. It is a day in which the end of the church age has come and God will rapture his bride right before the great tribulation for the grand ceremony that’s prophesied near the end in revelation. Matthew 24:13-14 (KJV) “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” In these two verses alone God makes it clear what’s going to happen and he indicated what the end of the age is and what it’ll mean to transition into the end part if you read the rest of Matthew 24. But if you want to know why God picks up the church before the great tribulation it’ll have to be found in Revelation 3:3 and 10 (KJV) “Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee...Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth”. To me this doesn’t read as “good job on enduring, but endure for me some more”, but rather it is his fulfillment of a promise to reward his long deceased followers through all of time and to bar his currently alive soldiers in Christ who have endured to not take the hard exam, no need.

What believers aren’t really talking or concerned about is the apostasy that will be coming soon, before the rapture this event has to transpire no doubt. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (CSB) “Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him: We ask you, brothers and sisters, not to be easily upset or troubled, either by a prophecy or by a message or by a letter supposedly from us, alleging that the day of the Lord has come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.”

Even if you do not fancy yourself with the good book...listen closely...and if you believe in God you should know what this period will mean...but for unbelievers you should heed this warning as well, because I believe this point in time will spark the biggest enlightenment revolution. It doesn’t matter if you’re a feminist, new age goer, scientist, Gnostic, or atheist...it will be literal PVP across the whole world. If you weren’t already engaging in these political or belief discussions, then you will be one day, because during this prophetic time period this bout will be at everyone’s doorstep and if you’re not well equipped with good knowledge you will be knocked out, quite figuratively and maybe literally, and you will be unbending the knee to your current beliefs and bending the knee to a new set of beliefs. I even wager these forums will host some of these discussions for what is to come to light for the world, just like how there are already many political discussions to date. Why this will ultimately be transpiring is because God will be allowing Satan to start establishing his throne on earth as well as being able to deceive many. We Christians and other bible believing denominations have already been facing similar scrutiny from the world and including other elements of life. That is primarily why I’m creating this urgent message, because even if you don’t believe in God you will still be dragged into PVP for a numerous amounts of things and issues.

The Apostasy is something that will be orchestrated by Satan himself and what Apostasy unequivocally is...is a denial of God’s nature, creation, and order and a complete inversion of God. During this time I can imagine there will be many books, articles, and show hosts talking about this including the likes of popular celebrities, online influencers, and TV hosts. The whole world will be in on this “enlightenment” period...so no the world isn’t ending quite yet and neither is there going to be an “end” in the sense.

The new doctrine of the world will be pushed onto everybody...the pillar of science will inevitably be dismantled so if you thought you were safe by knowing all the facts then it won’t last long for you...if you believe in spirituality movements be ready to accept all these new beliefs...and lastly the throne of God will be usurped and no longer have a place on earth spiritually and symbolically (this isn’t the Antichrist yet but it does happen soon after).

Some of the key players that I predict will play a part in this is Donald Trump and other major world figures, Trump was hardly a man of God and even in his heyday he was very questionable...and many people who follow Trump will also fall into his steps. Trump has claimed he might not be going to heaven so this is definitely a ship he’s going to jump onto, so if you thought he was God fearing and believing then you're in for a surprise.

Next the Vatican City will unleash its secrets to the world, the Vatican Apostolic Archive is not opened to the public and I believe this is where many new beliefs will stem from. Pope Francis recently passed away and this gives Pope Leo XIV new command to possibly open up the vault of secrets for the world to learn. Many books and articles of the vault will be made public and online as well, but what this symbolically signifies is Satan’s own tree knowledge in the form of a library and many people will take a bite from this tree.

Lastly, it would need to be the whole gender movement that plays a bigger role, because Lucifer was neither male or female this is also a main inversion he would want to establish on the world. I believe this will be his effort of forging a new identity, for the most part people have been forging identities outside of God, but in this instance you would be forging a new identity in Satan which is part of the new doctrine.

I honestly don’t know the full picture, but pretty much the normal things that you once knew and believed in will be inverted. Even your friends, family, and coworkers will take a bite from this tree of knowledge and boast about knowing everything now and more, despite the bible already having all the answers, this new doctrine will instead cater to what many people want to believe and there will be something for everyone to believe in or have their beliefs usurped. Believers and non-believers will be given a choice to take a bite from this tree and that is why ultimately the apostasy is known as the apostasy, even believers will accidentally take a bite of the tree but it is up to the individual to accept or deny it.

If you thought a man was a man and a woman was a woman, be ready to accept a new evidence...if you thought we were the ultimate life form in this world and all spiritually encompassing, be ready to accept new evidence...if you thought God was our creator...be ready to accept new evidence…

I’m not joking in all of this, be ready to hold the line as firmly as you can, because like I said it will be worldwide PVP hence why I coined this the “The Last Spiritual Bout”.

Subsequently this ends with the arrival of God’s rapture, that is also theorized to be covered up by otherworldly lifeforms, and following with what I transcribed here today I don’t think that’s out of the question but for what reasons I am unsure of and neither will I try to articulate them. As the world transitions into this new doctrine there will be a glorious bout and many Christian and bible believing warriors will be fighting to maintain God’s sovereignty and truth, however once that bell rings...and when all the points have been tallied up and whoever is left standing…

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
“We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, concerning those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, in the same way, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For we say this to you by a word from the Lord: We who are still alive at the Lord’s coming will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are still alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.”

P.S. AI will also consume every single bit of knowledge of the forbidden library and thus being more easily accessible to all, so it won’t be your buddy during those times either in discerning truth and rather act more like a honeypot.
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Originally posted by Alamort:
Getting the rapture out of the way, the reason why that fateful day happens in which both dead and alive believers are reunited with God is because he promised that day would come sometime.

“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.” Jesus, ~2000 years ago.

/checks watch
Originally posted by Alamort:
First off, in writing this message I do not claim to have received a vision, a dream, or have acquired this information from somebody else and in fact it’s something I want to touch on since no one else is speculating on this, so this is all theories and mere speculations on my part as a true believer in Christ though I will try to write this all in 1k(ish) words for convenience.

Getting the rapture out of the way, the reason why that fateful day happens in which both dead and alive believers are reunited with God is because he promised that day would come sometime. It is a day in which the end of the church age has come and God will rapture his bride right before the great tribulation for the grand ceremony that’s prophesied near the end in revelation. Matthew 24:13-14 (KJV) “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” In these two verses alone God makes it clear what’s going to happen and he indicated what the end of the age is and what it’ll mean to transition into the end part if you read the rest of Matthew 24. But if you want to know why God picks up the church before the great tribulation it’ll have to be found in Revelation 3:3 and 10 (KJV) “Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee...Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth”. To me this doesn’t read as “good job on enduring, but endure for me some more”, but rather it is his fulfillment of a promise to reward his long deceased followers through all of time and to bar his currently alive soldiers in Christ who have endured to not take the hard exam, no need.

What believers aren’t really talking or concerned about is the apostasy that will be coming soon, before the rapture this event has to transpire no doubt. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (CSB) “Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him: We ask you, brothers and sisters, not to be easily upset or troubled, either by a prophecy or by a message or by a letter supposedly from us, alleging that the day of the Lord has come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.”

Even if you do not fancy yourself with the good book...listen closely...and if you believe in God you should know what this period will mean...but for unbelievers you should heed this warning as well, because I believe this point in time will spark the biggest enlightenment revolution. It doesn’t matter if you’re a feminist, new age goer, scientist, Gnostic, or atheist...it will be literal PVP across the whole world. If you weren’t already engaging in these political or belief discussions, then you will be one day, because during this prophetic time period this bout will be at everyone’s doorstep and if you’re not well equipped with good knowledge you will be knocked out, quite figuratively and maybe literally, and you will be unbending the knee to your current beliefs and bending the knee to a new set of beliefs. I even wager these forums will host some of these discussions for what is to come to light for the world, just like how there are already many political discussions to date. Why this will ultimately be transpiring is because God will be allowing Satan to start establishing his throne on earth as well as being able to deceive many. We Christians and other bible believing denominations have already been facing similar scrutiny from the world and including other elements of life. That is primarily why I’m creating this urgent message, because even if you don’t believe in God you will still be dragged into PVP for a numerous amounts of things and issues.

The Apostasy is something that will be orchestrated by Satan himself and what Apostasy unequivocally is...is a denial of God’s nature, creation, and order and a complete inversion of God. During this time I can imagine there will be many books, articles, and show hosts talking about this including the likes of popular celebrities, online influencers, and TV hosts. The whole world will be in on this “enlightenment” period...so no the world isn’t ending quite yet and neither is there going to be an “end” in the sense.

The new doctrine of the world will be pushed onto everybody...the pillar of science will inevitably be dismantled so if you thought you were safe by knowing all the facts then it won’t last long for you...if you believe in spirituality movements be ready to accept all these new beliefs...and lastly the throne of God will be usurped and no longer have a place on earth spiritually and symbolically (this isn’t the Antichrist yet but it does happen soon after).

Some of the key players that I predict will play a part in this is Donald Trump and other major world figures, Trump was hardly a man of God and even in his heyday he was very questionable...and many people who follow Trump will also fall into his steps. Trump has claimed he might not be going to heaven so this is definitely a ship he’s going to jump onto, so if you thought he was God fearing and believing then you're in for a surprise.

Next the Vatican City will unleash its secrets to the world, the Vatican Apostolic Archive is not opened to the public and I believe this is where many new beliefs will stem from. Pope Francis recently passed away and this gives Pope Leo XIV new command to possibly open up the vault of secrets for the world to learn. Many books and articles of the vault will be made public and online as well, but what this symbolically signifies is Satan’s own tree knowledge in the form of a library and many people will take a bite from this tree.

Lastly, it would need to be the whole gender movement that plays a bigger role, because Lucifer was neither male or female this is also a main inversion he would want to establish on the world. I believe this will be his effort of forging a new identity, for the most part people have been forging identities outside of God, but in this instance you would be forging a new identity in Satan which is part of the new doctrine.

I honestly don’t know the full picture, but pretty much the normal things that you once knew and believed in will be inverted. Even your friends, family, and coworkers will take a bite from this tree of knowledge and boast about knowing everything now and more, despite the bible already having all the answers, this new doctrine will instead cater to what many people want to believe and there will be something for everyone to believe in or have their beliefs usurped. Believers and non-believers will be given a choice to take a bite from this tree and that is why ultimately the apostasy is known as the apostasy, even believers will accidentally take a bite of the tree but it is up to the individual to accept or deny it.

If you thought a man was a man and a woman was a woman, be ready to accept a new evidence...if you thought we were the ultimate life form in this world and all spiritually encompassing, be ready to accept new evidence...if you thought God was our creator...be ready to accept new evidence…

I’m not joking in all of this, be ready to hold the line as firmly as you can, because like I said it will be worldwide PVP hence why I coined this the “The Last Spiritual Bout”.

Subsequently this ends with the arrival of God’s rapture, that is also theorized to be covered up by otherworldly lifeforms, and following with what I transcribed here today I don’t think that’s out of the question but for what reasons I am unsure of and neither will I try to articulate them. As the world transitions into this new doctrine there will be a glorious bout and many Christian and bible believing warriors will be fighting to maintain God’s sovereignty and truth, however once that bell rings...and when all the points have been tallied up and whoever is left standing…

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
“We do not want you to be uninformed, brothers and sisters, concerning those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, in the same way, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For we say this to you by a word from the Lord: We who are still alive at the Lord’s coming will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are still alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words.”

P.S. AI will also consume every single bit of knowledge of the forbidden library and thus being more easily accessible to all, so it won’t be your buddy during those times either in discerning truth and rather act more like a honeypot.

AI?
I think this story has a lot of plot holes.
According to the Bible, the final days will be similar to those of Noah. Noah was not removed, but the others were. It also discusses wheat and tares, how God planted a garden but the devil sowed tares, also known as nephilim, and how they must grow together until Jesus comes to burn the tares and then gather the wheat into His barn. So, does it sound like the believers will be taken first?
Originally posted by xAlphaStarOmegax:
According to the Bible, the final days will be similar to those of Noah. Noah was not removed, but the others were. It also discusses wheat and tares, how God planted a garden but the devil sowed tares, also known as nephilim, and how they must grow together until Jesus comes to burn the tares and then gather the wheat into His barn. So, does it sound like the believers will be taken first?
Like so yes, one man and woman is taken from the field, then the flood comes but God already came back with water once so...
Yes, people will be taken, but... to me, the Bible seems to allude to it being the tares who are removed first.
The so-called 'rapture' is extrabiblical fan-fiction.
Originally posted by xAlphaStarOmegax:
Yes, people will be taken, but... to me, the Bible seems to allude to it being the tares who are removed first.
It's a past similar event brother, I didn't get to the whole tribulation talk because it's another discussion but I also believe it'll be an inverted event as well with the introduction of Satan via the falling away and God's rapture starting us off. Even Jesus, he already came back once as a savior but when he comes back this time he's coming back as a vanquisher of evil.
Originally posted by Swarmfly:
The so-called 'rapture' is extrabiblical fan-fiction.

So is The Trinity.

https://youtu.be/26JIQBiYN4A?si=wBQiLO9nKKoWJf4o
Originally posted by Fajita Jim:
Originally posted by Swarmfly:
The so-called 'rapture' is extrabiblical fan-fiction.

So is The Trinity.

https://youtu.be/26JIQBiYN4A?si=wBQiLO9nKKoWJf4o

Also that.
Originally posted by Fajita Jim:
Originally posted by Swarmfly:
The so-called 'rapture' is extrabiblical fan-fiction.

So is The Trinity.

https://youtu.be/26JIQBiYN4A?si=wBQiLO9nKKoWJf4o
Not really, it’s just how concepts of the Bible have been coined over time since the origin of the English language. I even imagine some of those terms would make it in major Bible versions if they were permitted to. Like the word soul which I covered some time ago, it’s a false word imo but somehow it became part of the English language and made its way in Bible translations despite never coming from the Hebrew Scriptures or older. So fallible? Maybe. :GoodA:
Originally posted by Alamort:
Originally posted by Fajita Jim:

So is The Trinity.

https://youtu.be/26JIQBiYN4A?si=wBQiLO9nKKoWJf4o
Not really, it’s just how concepts of the Bible have been coined over time since the origin of the English language. I even imagine some of those terms would make it in major Bible versions if they were permitted to. Like the word soul which I covered some time ago, it’s a false word imo but somehow it became part of the English language and made its way in Bible translations despite never coming from the Hebrew Scriptures or older. So fallible? Maybe. :GoodA:

By 'soul' you mean 'nephesh'?

And yeah, the Trinity was %100 added to the Bible later. We know when and by who and why. It's no mystery.
Last edited by Fajita Jim; 13 hours ago
Originally posted by Alamort:
Even if you do not fancy yourself with the good book...listen closely...and if you believe in God you should know what this period will mean...but for unbelievers you should heed this warning as well, because I believe this point in time will spark the biggest enlightenment revolution. It doesn’t matter if you’re a feminist, new age goer, scientist, Gnostic, or atheist...it will be literal PVP across the whole world. If you weren’t already engaging in these political or belief discussions, then you will be one day, because during this prophetic time period this bout will be at everyone’s doorstep and if you’re not well equipped with good knowledge you will be knocked out, quite figuratively and maybe literally, and you will be unbending the knee to your current beliefs and bending the knee to a new set of beliefs.

Say to me, you brother, do you believe that the moon landing was faked ?

I mean, isn't that a form of rapture, in some way ?


And pray tell, what will thou do if the Rapture doesn't happen during your lifetime ? Are you gunna try to foster it ? By that, i mean, there were already MORE than enought school shooters in the US.


Originally posted by Alamort:
First off, in writing this message I do not claim to have received a vision, a dream, or have acquired this information from somebody else and in fact it’s something I want to touch on since no one else is speculating on this
Aaaaaaaaaand ... on THAT you are very wrong, it seems the Rapture is a hot topic since one year more or less. I've never heard so many references to it in the last 3 months. So, nope, you are not a path opener on that topic.
Originally posted by Swarmfly:
The so-called 'rapture' is extrabiblical fan-fiction.
It is cope for people who have wasted their entire lifetime being hateful.
Originally posted by Inoue:
Originally posted by Swarmfly:
The so-called 'rapture' is extrabiblical fan-fiction.
It is cope for people who have wasted their entire lifetime being hateful.

There is no love like Christian scorn!
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