morality is subjective most of the time its basicly around a set amounth of rules but what some views as good others view as evil

Morality is subjective. Someone's hero is someone's villain.

Originally posted by Arvaos ⚚:

Is morality manmade or is it intrinsic?

Are good and evil concepts we created to bring order to chaos?

As I often ask ... whose definition of morality are we using?

It is a fair question seeing as we have people who can't define what criminal behavior in the U.S. is anymore. In order to know what criminal behavior is one must have a moral compass to go by.

The odds are good that people who allow criminal behavior to exist are more than likely criminals themselves, or know they are guilty of criminal behavior. By letting criminals go free that assuages their knowing that they themselves are guilty of criminal behavior and are excusing it for them believing it excuses it for themselves as well.

Let's just say fi I were a betting man I wouldn't have to be worrying about how full Hell is going to be eventually. Yes, I'm looking at you Liberal politicians and activists.

Tau say barance in all things

Good and evil are subjective, as in contrast to obsolete delusions of divine punishment, modern secular laws consider for example both murder of innocents and capital punishment for murderers to be wrong because both of them rob people of fairness and justice,

It was based on survival, first family groups, then tribe and eventually to the state level. Stories and religion ensured that morality was interwoven into it to reinforce the lessons, and as long as it benefits people on both the individual level and the group level, it will still be taught.

I don't think humans are capable of truly approaching anything objectively. As long as our cognition is bound to the human brain, we are also bound to an ego, which has bias and prejudice as a fundamental and inescapable feature.


But something I always found funny is that most of the morality systems in the world (like religions) actually posit that morality is cut-and-dry, and NOT subjective. However, their supposed followers basically ignore that immediately.

The Bible says "thou shalt not kill," not "thou shalt not kill...unless you think the other guy is bad." The literal text gives zero leeway for justifiable killing.

And yet, you'd be hard pressed to find any Christian who would say murder can never be justified. It's a very "eat your cake and have it too" type of alleged morality.

The basics of morality are intrisinc, evolutionary and, in my view, objective.

But it initially applied only at the level of one's extended family. We've been tryijg to extend the domain of morality for millenia, and I think we've partly succeded (you probably feel vicariously angry when a stranger suffers some outrageous injustice).

Morality is an attempt to balance justice for one person and fairness for society, since they often contradict each other.

Morality and ethics evolve over time. For instance, slavery was once widely accepted but is now universally condemned. Morality evolved to reduce conflict within a group and increase cooperation, which contributed to survival. Traits such as empathy, reciprocity, and a sense of fairness can be innate.

Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:

Morality is subjective. Someone's hero is someone's villain.

It's very much environmental/cultural. There are some people out there who think it's morally justified to blow up a plane. Just depends on where you're born, I guess.

Morality does not exist. Read Nietzsche.

Originally posted by Fuki:

Morality does not exist. Read Nietzsche.

Nietzsche doesn't exist. Read Bible.

it doesn’t exist