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Do YOU consider this a tip or a FEE?
*Including tips as part of the customer's bill* rather than making that an optional thing, as if they are forcing customers to pay extra even though they don't want to (like, why?). Can stores or businesses really coerce customers to tip against their will or is that practice illegal?

There's a difference between a tip & fee, since a tip remains optional for the client while a fee is something clients are required to pay upfront before or after they have utilized the service. "Tipping" in America is NO LONGER "giving a tip" more like "you have to pay this fee".
Last edited by Shadow-79; 22 hours ago
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A tip is something that you choose to give if service not only meets your expectations, but also exceeds them. Yeah, that's just a fee.
Last edited by Pierce Dalton; 22 hours ago
That is definitely not a tip. Tipping culture sucks.
If its included then it isnt a tip
Glad we have that madness not here..
a social fee... one that if I'm not under the social constraint of "treating someone" I'm happy to reject...

hilarious drive thrus thought they could demand tips though... like ya, I'm going to tip you for pulling a cold burger off the rack and shoving it in a bag lmfao!
I consider a tip just a tease.
I'm pretty sure nobody "coerced" you to go out.

Learn how to cook better at home.

Or don't complain about tips.

Seriously, teriyaki is not that hard.
Lime 21 hours ago 
Sounds like a service fee, tips are earned.
I don’t eat out and even when I do I make stuff in the fly. I have a sandmaker in my car and I connect it to an external power source so I can make a panini.
Originally posted by Shadow-79:
*Including tips as part of the customer's bill* rather than making that an optional thing, as if they are forcing customers to pay extra even though they don't want to (like, why?). Can stores or businesses really coerce customers to tip against their will or is that practice illegal?

There's a difference between a tip & fee, since a tip remains optional for the client while a fee is something clients are required to pay upfront before or after they have utilized the service. "Tipping" in America is NO LONGER "giving a tip" more like "you have to pay this fee".

if you've had issues, you can always call a manager, explain the issue and have the tip removed.

however, I'd only do this for a real situation, not just "but I don't wanna tip".

that being said, if you know a place includes the tip by default, just don't go there.
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
I don’t eat out and even when I do I make stuff in the fly. I have a sandmaker in my car and I connect it to an external power source so I can make a panini.

you have a SANDMAKER?

damn boy, I want one of those! If we combine our powers, we can make so much SAND and fill a BEACH!

summer time!
Originally posted by Shadow-79:
*Including tips as part of the customer's bill* rather than making that an optional thing, as if they are forcing customers to pay extra even though they don't want to (like, why?). Can stores or businesses really coerce customers to tip against their will or is that practice illegal?

There's a difference between a tip & fee, since a tip remains optional for the client while a fee is something clients are required to pay upfront before or after they have utilized the service. "Tipping" in America is NO LONGER "giving a tip" more like "you have to pay this fee".

If they don't allow me to choose how much the tip is I consider it a fee.

It is MY responsibility to decide to give a tip ... not the company or people working there.

That said, I always leave a tip of my choosing. I was a waiter at one point in time.
This is a surcharge and I expect payment promptly. Cash only, no refunds.
Originally posted by bAd a!m:
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
I don’t eat out and even when I do I make stuff in the fly. I have a sandmaker in my car and I connect it to an external power source so I can make a panini.

you have a SANDMAKER?

damn boy, I want one of those! If we combine our powers, we can make so much SAND and fill a BEACH!

summer time!
Sandwich maker to be exact. Haha
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