I don't know xd it sounds like a statement made just to avoid being offensive

this is how you know that all humans are basically the same:

if I take a control group from all ethnicities that exist and each control group is given modern technology and instructions on how to use that technology in their own language or communication system that they can fully understand, you'll see that the vast majority of each control group, without exception, can fully understand and use that technology.

and this has been tested and done especially with people who came from tribal groups, so people who were previously never exposed to any form of modern technology. Once they were explained what that technology is and how to use it, there was no difference between them and a person who is tech-savvy in our understanding.

Why don’t you conduct a study?

Originally posted by bAd a!m:

Once they were explained what that technology is and how to use it, there was no difference between them and a person who is tech-savvy in our understanding.

Incredible. Truly it is only a matter of time before Zimbabwe becomes the next Silicon Valley.

In all seriousness, though, please post a link to the study if what you're claiming is true.

Originally posted by bAd a!m:

this is how you know that all humans are basically the same:

if I take a control group from all ethnicities that exist and each control group is given modern technology and instructions on how to use that technology in their own language or communication system that they can fully understand, you'll see that the vast majority of each control group, without exception, can fully understand and use that technology.

and this has been tested and done especially with people who came from tribal groups, so people who were previously never exposed to any form of modern technology. Once they were explained what that technology is and how to use it, there was no difference between them and a person who is tech-savvy in our understanding.

Recently read this story about an uncontacted tribe who recently made contact and is now requesting Starlink service.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jul/28/we-want-starlink-from-isolation-to-integration-what-happened-to-the-korubo-people-after-contact

Originally posted by kekm8:

The current Western immigration model is based on the idea that geographically separated groups of people are all fundamentally interchangeable. How do we know this is true? When was it proven? And by who?

Who cares about this? So if some ethnicities does not have this or some have more what does it matter?

Also there is no universal definition on intelligence nor can anyone measure it.

The only thing what you can do is IQ tests which does not measure intelligence.

Anyway human rights are not based on intelligence. Laws are not based on intelligence they are the same for everyone.

And you should be glad this is the case in the world or otherwise the rights of people who make this kind of threads are like what plants have.

Originally posted by kekm8:

The current Western immigration model is based on the idea that geographically separated groups of people are all fundamentally interchangeable. How do we know this is true? When was it proven? And by who?

Until you learn that individuality matters more than anything else you will never truly understand this issue.

Each person has an intellect level, and in the case of the Western immigration model we have laws for that and they supersede any ideas. BTW I don't remember hearing anything about the interchangeable part. See the next sentence for that answer.

The Liberals are the ones that make up the laws as the go as long as they benefit themselves. Power and control > laws.

End of story.

Originally posted by Oneeyed:

Originally posted by kekm8:

The current Western immigration model is based on the idea that geographically separated groups of people are all fundamentally interchangeable. How do we know this is true? When was it proven? And by who?

Who cares about this? So if some ethnicities does not have this or some have more what does it matter?

IQ is strongly and inversely correlated with violent criminality. So who cares? I guess people who want safe communities to raise their children in should probably care.

Is immigration a human right in your opinion?

Originally posted by Fajita Jim:

Originally posted by bAd a!m:

this is how you know that all humans are basically the same:

if I take a control group from all ethnicities that exist and each control group is given modern technology and instructions on how to use that technology in their own language or communication system that they can fully understand, you'll see that the vast majority of each control group, without exception, can fully understand and use that technology.

and this has been tested and done especially with people who came from tribal groups, so people who were previously never exposed to any form of modern technology. Once they were explained what that technology is and how to use it, there was no difference between them and a person who is tech-savvy in our understanding.

Recently read this story about an uncontacted tribe who recently made contact and is now requesting Starlink service.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jul/28/we-want-starlink-from-isolation-to-integration-what-happened-to-the-korubo-people-after-contact

Yes, very good story.

And this is just one example that we sometimes confuse the "lack of access" to any technology as a sign of "not understanding that technology", which is wrong.

you can always just measure their heads (and the bumps on them)

Originally posted by miakisfan:

Each person has an intellect level, and in the case of the Western immigration model we have laws for that and they supersede any ideas.

End of story.

Are you implying that the 10s of thousands of African migrants being shuttled into Europe by NGOs on boats are being individually tested for their intellect?

Originally posted by kekm8:

Originally posted by Oneeyed:

Who cares about this? So if some ethnicities does not have this or some have more what does it matter?

IQ is strongly and inversely correlated with violent criminality. So who cares? I guess people who want safe communities to raise their children in should probably care.

Is immigration a human right in your opinion?

IQ is not intelligence. And there is no proof for what you saying.

There is no data for intelligence of different communties and not even for the IQ.

In my book children have to be protected from people who make arguments like you making up stories about safe communties correlating with high IQs while the dumb dwellers are all eating children

It's not proven per se, but as we see a high degree of diversity arising naturally within true meritocracies, there is more evidence for there being no significant differences in IQ between races.

We also assume that because it's more ethical than the alternative. If we did discover a minor difference in IQ, people like yourself (and I say that because your mind immediately jumps to immigration of all things) would use it as a justification to dehumanize others.

Say there's a 55% chance that a random person from group A has a higher IQ than a random person of group B. That doesn't translate to a 55% percent chance of group A being selected over B, it could be 70%, 80% or +90%, such that even brilliant people in group B would be selected against.

Neutrality on race would be more meritocratic and respectful of the individual, even if it was proven that there were inherent differences in IQ.

Easy there OP, don't turn into this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hglyRJXCNCM

BTW

Originally posted by kekm8:

And by who?

*by whom :P

It would seem the capacity for intelligence within modern humans is declining. If they weren't at the same level before, they will be soon enough.