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America's war on cancer research
The cancellation of $500 million in mRNA vaccine research has terminated 22 critical projects aimed at developing vaccines for avian flu and other emerging threats.

Beyond infectious disease prevention, mRNA technology is showing great promise in cancer treatment. Moderna and Merck’s personalized mRNA cancer vaccine has demonstrated remarkable efficacy against melanoma, reducing cancer recurrence risk by 49 percent and metastasis risk by 62 percent in Phase 2 trials.
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Fake 28 Aug @ 11:38pm 
What's stopping the EU from funding the research?
Acetyl 28 Aug @ 11:39pm 
Your perspective is reactionary. You should go back to the 1920's and the causes of cancer. Harold Hoxsey, Royal Rife, Linus Pauling, vitamin B17, fasting / ketogenic diet for strictly glycolytic cancer types (most of them), etc. Read "murder by injection" by Eustace Mullins, specifically the chapter "Quacks on quackery" about Morris Fishbein and the early AMA. It's on archive.org.
America also had its first case of screwworm, a flesh-eating parasite. Karma for sending immigrants to El Salvador.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kmeeJn0h2I
Arvaos 28 Aug @ 11:47pm 
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Your perspective is reactionary. You should go back to the 1920's and the causes of cancer. Harold Hoxsey, Royal Rife, Linus Pauling, vitamin B17, fasting / ketogenic diet for strictly glycolytic cancer types (most of them), etc. Read "murder by injection" by Eustace Mullins, specifically the chapter "Quacks on quackery" about Morris Fishbein and the early AMA. It's on archive.org.

Historical alternative cancer therapies, Hoxsey Therapy, Rife machines, Linus Pauling’s high-dose vitamin C, and vitamin B17 have little to no reliable scientific evidence supporting their effectiveness.
Acetyl 28 Aug @ 11:48pm 
Originally posted by Arvaos:
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Your perspective is reactionary. You should go back to the 1920's and the causes of cancer. Harold Hoxsey, Royal Rife, Linus Pauling, vitamin B17, fasting / ketogenic diet for strictly glycolytic cancer types (most of them), etc. Read "murder by injection" by Eustace Mullins, specifically the chapter "Quacks on quackery" about Morris Fishbein and the early AMA. It's on archive.org.

Historical alternative cancer therapies, Hoxsey Therapy, Rife machines, Linus Pauling’s high-dose vitamin C, and vitamin B17 have little to no reliable scientific evidence supporting their effectiveness.
Programmed response.
Ulfrinn 28 Aug @ 11:48pm 
Originally posted by Fake:
What's stopping the EU from funding the research?
Well, he's just going on the people selling mRNA vaccines word that it shows potential for cancer. No source, evidence, it study to back that, no guarantee that it would, nothing to even suggest that it might. Just basic "give me money" behavior from a company that was already given billions by taxpayers.
Acetyl 28 Aug @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
Originally posted by Fake:
What's stopping the EU from funding the research?
Well, he's just going on the people selling mRNA vaccines word that it shows potential for cancer. No source, evidence, it study to back that, no guarantee that it would, nothing to even suggest that it might. Just basic "give me money" behavior from a company that was already given billions by taxpayers.
That's being far too generous. Whenever they're wanting to fund or push new tech they always say oh it's to cure cancer, oh it's for veterans of the disabled, oh it's for this or that. None of it ever materializes. They have a very long track record of treading water and playing out this dumb little song and dance many, many, many times.
Ulfrinn 29 Aug @ 12:04am 
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
Well, he's just going on the people selling mRNA vaccines word that it shows potential for cancer. No source, evidence, it study to back that, no guarantee that it would, nothing to even suggest that it might. Just basic "give me money" behavior from a company that was already given billions by taxpayers.
That's being far too generous. Whenever they're wanting to fund or push new tech they always say oh it's to cure cancer, oh it's for veterans of the disabled, oh it's for this or that. None of it ever materializes. They have a very long track record of treading water and playing out this dumb little song and dance many, many, many times.
Besides, didn't Moderns exploit special protections from prosecution, and receive business from government mandates that put tens of billions of dollars into their coffers already? Seems to me like they already have the funding.
datCookie 29 Aug @ 12:05am 
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
Well, he's just going on the people selling mRNA vaccines word that it shows potential for cancer. No source, evidence, it study to back that, no guarantee that it would, nothing to even suggest that it might. Just basic "give me money" behavior from a company that was already given billions by taxpayers.
That's being far too generous. Whenever they're wanting to fund or push new tech they always say oh it's to cure cancer, oh it's for veterans of the disabled, oh it's for this or that. None of it ever materializes. They have a very long track record of treading water and playing out this dumb little song and dance many, many, many times.

Do you really expect research to be done, completed and with successful results in a matter of months? Do you know how time consuming and stringent doing these things is? It's not like they can just find a random thing that happens to work, get it into some humans and call it a day. Trials take years, need extensive peer review and have to meet a certain criteria before they can even move on to human trials and then practical application.

But let me guess, this is a "programmed response" too?
Ulfrinn 29 Aug @ 12:08am 
Originally posted by datCookie:
Originally posted by Acetyl:
That's being far too generous. Whenever they're wanting to fund or push new tech they always say oh it's to cure cancer, oh it's for veterans of the disabled, oh it's for this or that. None of it ever materializes. They have a very long track record of treading water and playing out this dumb little song and dance many, many, many times.

Do you really expect research to be done, completed and with successful results in a matter of months? Do you know how time consuming and stringent doing these things is? It's not like they can just find a random thing that happens to work, get it into some humans and call it a day. Trials take years, need extensive peer review and have to meet a certain criteria before they can even move on to human trials and then practical application.

But let me guess, this is a "programmed response" too?
Do you really expect multi billion dollar corporations to not embellish their claims to get free money?
datCookie 29 Aug @ 12:09am 
Originally posted by Ulfrinn:
Originally posted by datCookie:

Do you really expect research to be done, completed and with successful results in a matter of months? Do you know how time consuming and stringent doing these things is? It's not like they can just find a random thing that happens to work, get it into some humans and call it a day. Trials take years, need extensive peer review and have to meet a certain criteria before they can even move on to human trials and then practical application.

But let me guess, this is a "programmed response" too?
Do you really expect multi billion dollar corporations to not embellish their claims to get free money?

Nope, of course they do that. Most big businesses do. But that has nothing to do with what I was talking about
Originally posted by Fake:
What's stopping the EU from funding the research?

The countries of the EU do have budgets and very large ones at that.

You really shouldn't listen to Trump when it comes to this sort of stuff. The USA isn't the only country in the world doing cancer research.
lailaamell 29 Aug @ 12:34am 
Like america dont want nerds i guess
lailaamell 29 Aug @ 12:36am 
Originally posted by Arvaos:
The cancellation of $500 million in mRNA vaccine research has terminated 22 critical projects aimed at developing vaccines for avian flu and other emerging threats.

Beyond infectious disease prevention, mRNA technology is showing great promise in cancer treatment. Moderna and Merck’s personalized mRNA cancer vaccine has demonstrated remarkable efficacy against melanoma, reducing cancer recurrence risk by 49 percent and metastasis risk by 62 percent in Phase 2 trials.
Just stop trying this is a lost cause ppl dont care for most will always think themself immune to cancer so just accept trump is permament its what its you are just making things worse with posts like this 90% does not understand these subjects you arent going to change anything every country will in the end get their own trump and nothing can stop that
Last edited by lailaamell; 29 Aug @ 12:38am
Originally posted by Fake:
What's stopping the EU from funding the research?
If Trump can rename the Gulf of Mexico, then he could rename The EU to "Freeloaders" and that's the answer as to why they can't fund cancer research.
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