Masked armored soldiers, feels like that appeals to a power complex

No, warhammer doesn't attract offensive and extreme people.

But it is a niche IP and the people that are passionate about it are really passionate.
And when you play games which have the entire core based on the premise of "suffer not the xenos to live", that's kind of the flow you go with if you're passionate about the lore.


As for Games Workshop, they are finalizing their descent into corporate hell, with a complete and total disconnect between the suits that make the decision and the people that actually enjoy the warhammer universe, producing such wonderful results as the controversy around female custodes (let's not even mention the cease and desists sent out to people doing lore videos).
And no, Games Workshop was not in the right there.
Because a push to make the warhammer universe more inclusive and diverse is exactly the opposite of what they should be doing if they want to retain their clientbase; and no amount of inclusivity will drive people who don't care a iota about the universe into in with enough numbers to offset disgruntled fans.

If you read the lore then humanity in 40K are not the good guys, they're basically space fascists.

It's awesome because the lore and world is so deep and insane but they are not heroes.

I guess that aspect of it attracts some people who have their brains wired wrong and take it too literal.

Originally posted by Holding These Alligators Down:

If you read the lore then humanity in 40K are not the good guys, they're basically space fascists.

It's awesome because the lore and world is so deep and insane but they are not heroes.

I guess that aspect of it attracts some people who have their brains wired wrong and take it too literal.

i get that but i dont like real life implications some people bring. I get it is fun to get deep into roleplay but some people just implies real life things.

Originally posted by im coming for you...:

Originally posted by Holding These Alligators Down:

If you read the lore then humanity in 40K are not the good guys, they're basically space fascists.

It's awesome because the lore and world is so deep and insane but they are not heroes.

I guess that aspect of it attracts some people who have their brains wired wrong and take it too literal.

i get that but i dont like real life implications some people bring. I get it is fun to get deep into roleplay but some people just implies real life things.

Don't play with those people, it's meant to be fun.

The people in control of the IP right now didn't make up the idea and they have no idea how to market it.

Many such cases.

Well who do you think a setting with this description is going to attract?

"It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor of Mankind has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the master of mankind by the will of the gods and master of a million worlds by the might of His inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the vast Imperium of Man for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day so that He may never truly die.

Yet even in His deathless state, the Emperor continues His eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in His name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst His soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever-vigilant Inquisition and the Tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat to humanity from aliens, heretics, mutants -- and far, far worse.

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods."

I'd assume that's just what you are looking for and wanting to see. If you've ever been to the hobby store you'd see people of every type while I personally know a group of rather gay individuals who absolutely love the setting.

Guess anecdotal evidence really doesn't fly.

*looks at pride parade*
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Is there a force in warhammer / 40k that are not supremacists?

Originally posted by Corvus XIII:

Is there a force in warhammer / 40k that are not supremacists?

Orkz

Originally posted by im coming for you...:

no matter how much i see the company try to go out and support certain groups and speak out against discrimative people, the games, the table tops, the everything, seems to still attract a lot of really offensive and extreme people.

just kills my enjoyment when I play darktide or space marines for example just to get paired with really toxic individuals who cannot keep their ideology to themselves or amongst their own hivemind.

I call it the KKK Komplex. Scumbags like them tend to be attracted to dark things that are lesser known. Something they can wedge themselves into and make 'theirs'. If it's dark, violent, and sort of underground, you'll find them there. Just like the KKK.

I agree. People need to feel welcomed before they're converted into corpse starch.

There's a certain dystopian charm to the fact that 40k is so self-fulfilling lol

Honestly I would just leave Warhammer 40K alone. Gridmark IP tend to attract a very different crowd. You are better off with Star wars or Star Trek.