No you should have to pay for everything.
Water,
Food.
Air.

All these things should have a cost.
If you cannot pay, forced labor.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Last Jackdaw:

No you should have to pay for everything.
Water,
Food.
Air.

All these things should have a cost.
If you cannot pay, forced labor.

its just a lot of persons feels they should not have to pay for a game but somehow miss the idea of how do servers stay up for them to play a game they love

Oprindeligt skrevet af justanotherhuman:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Last Jackdaw:

No you should have to pay for everything.
Water,
Food.
Air.

All these things should have a cost.
If you cannot pay, forced labor.

its just a lot of persons feels they should not have to pay for a game but somehow miss the idea of how do servers stay up for them to play a game they love

The simple, non-evil answer is to distribute the server source and allow the client to be configured to connect to a different server.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af justanotherhuman:

its just a lot of persons feels they should not have to pay for a game but somehow miss the idea of how do servers stay up for them to play a game they love

The simple, non-evil answer is to distribute the server source and allow the client to be configured to connect to a different server.

even i don't know how to do that persons are looking to jump into a game with minimal fuss

Considering how many thousands of years ago people were trading goods with seashells would suggest otherwise. Those who do think so are either lying or have no real world sense.

Oprindeligt skrevet af justanotherhuman:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Last Jackdaw:

No you should have to pay for everything.
Water,
Food.
Air.

All these things should have a cost.
If you cannot pay, forced labor.

its just a lot of persons feels they should not have to pay for a game but somehow miss the idea of how do servers stay up for them to play a game they love

If they dont feel the need to pay that is good for them and it is up to the developers/ owners to make a business model that is effective in keeping maintenance costs covered as well as profit. Eventually maybe just keep it on a maintenance level cost.

Without costs being covered the servers will stop.

Some people wont care they will move to the next 'free' game.

Oprindeligt skrevet af justanotherhuman:

i need help understanding something

do persons really believe in everything needs to be free?

No you pay your way or there will be no way. The economy is what gives you your internet connection and the electricity to power it. Full stop.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Corvus XIII:

Oprindeligt skrevet af justanotherhuman:

its just a lot of persons feels they should not have to pay for a game but somehow miss the idea of how do servers stay up for them to play a game they love

If they dont feel the need to pay that is good for them and it is up to the developers/ owners to make a business model that is effective in keeping maintenance costs covered as well as profit. Eventually maybe just keep it on a maintenance level cost.

Without costs being covered the servers will stop.

Some people wont care they will move to the next 'free' game.

you don't have to sell me on that i know it takes money to keep a game going its just i keep coming across players that really thinks this is not a real thing

Did OP mean games (?) FFS be clear

Oprindeligt skrevet af justanotherhuman:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Corvus XIII:

If they dont feel the need to pay that is good for them and it is up to the developers/ owners to make a business model that is effective in keeping maintenance costs covered as well as profit. Eventually maybe just keep it on a maintenance level cost.

Without costs being covered the servers will stop.

Some people wont care they will move to the next 'free' game.

you don't have to sell me on that i know it takes money to keep a game going its just i keep coming across players that really thinks this is not a real thing

you can inform them that everything costs money and there is a physical connection of hardware and energy being used.
Say check their fans on the systems on a hot day, a server can run hotter and they need cooling and that costs money.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bernard The Gurnard:

Did OP mean games (?) FFS be clear

well thing is video games is not the only topic that covers this to

Oprindeligt skrevet af Corvus XIII:

Oprindeligt skrevet af justanotherhuman:

you don't have to sell me on that i know it takes money to keep a game going its just i keep coming across players that really thinks this is not a real thing

you can inform them that everything costs money and there is a physical connection of hardware and energy being used.
Say check their fans on the systems on a hot day, a server can run hotter and they need cooling and that costs money.

oh yeah i don't take it that deep i go up to 3 things and persons tell me all the time that its wrong for stuff to cost money and it should be free

Some things can be free though, if they are labelled as free and you can't pay for it even if you asked, well it is free.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dracoco OwO:

Some things can be free though, if they are labelled as free and you can't pay for it even if you asked, well it is free.

thing is anything man made it will cost money

Oprindeligt skrevet af justanotherhuman:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bernard The Gurnard:

Did OP mean games (?) FFS be clear

well thing is video games is not the only topic that covers this to

I know that is my point. I answered the way I did and others answered regarding games. The whole point is to what did the OP mean regarding his post? Games or everything else?