Should we feel sympathy for those that'll mock our deaths when their lives suddenly are on the line?

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OmegaBilly1 16 hours ago

Been watching some of the fallout of Kirk's death and some of his debate videos when he was still around due to me never noticing or heard of the guy who was actually big around politics for good reason.

And I gotta say he has some points that I both agree and disagree on when watching.
...And then when I started to watch the people who react to his death in a positive way and probably have deleted their original videos...

Yeah I can see how cowardly and utterly unintelligent they are due to Kirk literally explaining why they are like this along side with other people who spout out on their BS about making it either about them or painting themselves as the victim when the repercussions and ramifications of their actions start catching up to them.

...There was a running joke (more like a fact at this point) that the people who hate Kirk never really watched his videos and just paint him as something that he is not just an excuse to vilify and dehumanize him for their own agenda/political views.

Kirk pointed out that the people who hate him don't have either the intelligence or the "intellectually mature enough" (I'm guessing he meant mature enough to not act like a child when being challenged for your views? Still trying to grasp what he meant.) when having a debate... and it kinda shows because we all heard the stories and proof of evidence at this point which lead to his unfortunate death.

Is it considered human when you have these people proudly praising the death of someone who never hurt or killed anyone and only wanted to show how much he wanted his country to become a better place?

Then the same people who mocked them suddenly cry, deny, or paint themselves as the victims when they are asked if they were in the person of death's place metaphorically or literally?

...Cause their reactions of when they are being harassed for celebrating Kirk's death just makes me baffled due to... well what did you think was supposed to happen?

The question I ask is should I and many others should feel sympathetic for them when they will literally do the opposite if they have the chance?

The answer to hate is with love... but I try to struggle that concept when the world can be just as cruel in the process.

Cause these people want to remain forever their world views without ever trying to find the truth because they become so disillusioned by their comfort... they paint everyone who doesn't agree with them as anything vile just for an excuse to go murder them... for the opinions that challenges their world view.

...The reminder of trying to remember that these people are part of the same species as I am is slowly being chipped away from my morals when they are willing to do worse.

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BunniBealla 16 hours ago

I ain't reading allat uwu

Grimno 16 hours ago

Well considering the same people mad at those making memes about Kirk are the same people who make memes about children committing suicide....
I really don't care what they think.
My goal is to simply outlast them.

o 16 hours ago

no, not really.

i mean you can and should feel sympathy, this ought to be a natural moral reaction to the circumstances, but you shouldn't act on it they've made things pretty clear I think.

then again do you have a moral responsibility to save imperiled people? for your own sake, to protect a stable society.

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Jetstream Seum 16 hours ago

I didn't rejoice in his death nor did almost anyone in my entourage, but I expect that the 10% of liberals and leftists who did will be used as an excuse for all manner of indiscriminate inhumanity for years to come.

o 16 hours ago

Originally posted by Jetstream Seum:
I didn't rejoice in his death nor did almost anyone in my entourage, but I expect that the 10% of liberals and leftists who did will be used as an excuse for all manner of indiscriminate inhumanity for years to come.

life's pretty simple when you're a genocide bot. I enjoy my fantasies about being able to envy them.

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gwwak 16 hours ago

I've made characters in my Dungeons and Dragons whose sole purpose is to die, yet my players refuse to kill or celebrate their deaths. I think it is because they are cute waifus and people don't want to kill or abuse waifus even if they get a reward for it.

Coffinmaw 16 hours ago

I don't have an armchair big enough to lecture anyone else on what they 'should' feel or do.

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Grimno 16 hours ago

I will say when you know who goes, oh man. Oh man.

He turns 80 soon.

Of the 40 who have passed before him, only 11 made it past 80
And Jimmy Carter at 100 is the ONLY ONE listed as Natural Causes

OmegaBilly1 15 hours ago

Originally posted by gwwak:
I've made characters in my Dungeons and Dragons whose sole purpose is to die, yet my players refuse to kill or celebrate their deaths. I think it is because they are cute waifus and people don't want to kill or abuse waifus even if they get a reward for it.

Your comment reminded me of Shura from Fire Emblem where in Conquest you have a choice of either sparing him and letting him be recruited for your army... or you can kill him for a pair of boots that gives a permanent +1 movement... which isn't a lot by reading but trust me movement is very important in tactical rpgs and... conquest is considered the better and harder of the three paths by the community at the time.

Btw Shura's a good character once you get to know his story... unlike the entire story of Fates which is just a clusterf*ck that lost the plot to Camilla's

gwwak 15 hours ago

Originally posted by OmegaBilly1:
Originally posted by gwwak:
I've made characters in my Dungeons and Dragons whose sole purpose is to die, yet my players refuse to kill or celebrate their deaths. I think it is because they are cute waifus and people don't want to kill or abuse waifus even if they get a reward for it.

Your comment reminded me of Shura from Fire Emblem where in Conquest you have a choice of either sparing him and letting him be recruited for your army... or you can kill him for a pair of boots that gives a permanent +1 movement... which isn't a lot by reading but trust me movement is very important in tactical rpgs and... conquest is considered the better and harder of the three paths by the community at the time.

Btw Shura's a good character once you get to know his story... unlike the entire story of Fates which is just a clusterf*ck that lost the plot to Camilla's :melon:.

Reminds me of a time in Final Fantasy 7 where you can kill a submarine crew. A strategy guide said they dropped good equipment, so I killed them, but it turned out their equipment wasn't that great and I already had something better at that point.

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Houseman 15 hours ago

Jesus forgave those who were responsible for torturing him to death. "Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing".

Jesus also taught that we should, not just have sympathy for our enemies, but that we should LOVE our enemies, and pray for them. Matthew 5:44 So yes.

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apathy 14 hours ago

Originally posted by OmegaBilly1:
The answer to hate is with love... but I try to struggle that concept when the world can be just as cruel in the process.

Absurd.

You try loving the old school bullies on the playground back and see how far that gets you. The beatings only increase.

What stopped the bullying, was fighting back.

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Reddari 14 hours ago

I don't hate Kirk so much as I hate the actor who played Kirk.

He is one of the biggest terrorists of our time, trampling on free speech and the rights of millions of people with his hoax as Charlie Kirk, especially the final act.

We have good reason to believe that his crimes will continue based on what Patel said.

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