They have signature verification.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

They have signature verification.

I never said they didn't. Please read more carefully.

Originally posted by Houseman:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

They have signature verification.

I never said they didn't. Please read more carefully.

You never said they did.

The people who verify the signature do what an observer would do.

Would feel like a violation of our civil rights, sir!

Originally posted by Day 1:

Would feel like a violation of our civil rights, sir!

Which one?

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

The people who verify the signature do what an observer would do.

That is what they are supposed to be doing, yes. But how can you tell they are doing their jobs correctly? How do you know they aren't just raising a flag on every Republican vote and letting all the Democrat votes go through, or some other naughty thing like that?

That's why observers exist.

Bi-partisan observers (challengers) are there to ensure that they do the jobs they are supposed to be doing. If they are not there, it is as if your vote is being counted in secret.

Pity, it seems people aren't so interested in election integrity

Some laws are corrupt af.
They need to be strictly challenged and overruled.

Originally posted by Houseman:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

The people who verify the signature do what an observer would do.

That is what they are supposed to be doing, yes. But how can you tell they are doing their jobs correctly? How do you know they aren't just raising a flag on every Republican vote and letting all the Democrat votes go through, or some other naughty thing like that?

That's why observers exist.

Bi-partisan observers (challengers) are there to ensure that they do the jobs they are supposed to be doing. If they are not there, it is as if your vote is being counted in secret.

How do you know the observers wouldn't do the same thing?

Originally posted by Houseman:

Pity, it seems people aren't so interested in election integrity

Pity, it seems this topic is just to spread fear.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

How do you know the observers wouldn't do the same thing?

Because there would be equal numbers of Republican and Democrat observers. That's what is meant by "bi-partisan observers".

Pity, it seems this topic is just to spread fear.

What's there to be fearful about? That there's a risk of being disenfranchised through fraud thanks to people counting ballots in secret? Maybe people should be scared of that. Maybe they should take steps to correct that issue.

Originally posted by Houseman:

What's there to be fearful about?

You tell me.

Trust us, all of ze votes were for zis guy only.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by Houseman:

What's there to be fearful about?

You tell me.

I did!

"That there's a risk of being disenfranchised through fraud thanks to people counting ballots in secret? Maybe people should be scared of that. Maybe they should take steps to correct that issue."

But other than fear, I think a sense of justified, righteous anger might be a better reaction. Assuming one cares about election integrity, transparency, and the voting process, of course.

Originally posted by Houseman:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

You tell me.

I did!

"That there's a risk of being disenfranchised through fraud thanks to people counting ballots in secret? Maybe people should be scared of that. Maybe they should take steps to correct that issue."

But other than fear, I think a sense of justified, righteous anger might be a better reaction. Assuming one cares about election integrity, transparency, and the voting process, of course.

That assumes this topic was made in good faith.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

That assumes this topic was made in good faith.

What ulterior motive do you think I have, and for what reason?

I made this topic because our conversation in the other one was cut short, due to the mod locking the topic. A user was misleadingly claiming that elections were run under supervision by both parties, and that no fraud could get through for those reason. I researched and found that this is not entirely true. I also wanted to share my findings with a larger audience

https://gtm.steamproxy.vip/discussions/forum/12/597412823492164758/?ctp=15#c597414091753086915

shame that user is currently banned