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Every jobs sucks, it is why it is called a job.

Originally posted by 🔥Astral Rage🔥:

Toxic environment, lack of learning and growth has pushed me to feeling this way.

I do not have any other job offers and interview lined up. Have been almost 1.5 yrs with the same company and every day,week feels like years.

My time is getting wasted. People around me are lame and stuck with paying loans, family.

This job has made me dumb and I feel the need to polish my skillset

For the time being try to look for more jobs whilst working your current one. That’s my advice for you. Because bills still needs to be paid.

Originally posted by steven1mac:

Every jobs sucks, it is why it is called a job.

You’re right. That’s why I try to find a job that is “tolerable”.

Originally posted by 🔥Astral Rage🔥:

Toxic environment, lack of learning and growth has pushed me to feeling this way.

I do not have any other job offers and interview lined up. Have been almost 1.5 yrs with the same company and every day,week feels like years.

My time is getting wasted. People around me are lame and stuck with paying loans, family.

This job has made me dumb and I feel the need to polish my skillset

Build up your skillset - without losing your job.

Your colleagues are not your concern and they are not lame they are living their lives as they can.

Do things outside of work to keep your head fresh ie sports and things that will get the fatigue out of your head.

Originally posted by steven1mac:

Every jobs sucks, it is why it is called a job.

Pretty much.

Been at mine for 18 years now.

Originally posted by steven1mac:

Every jobs sucks, it is why it is called a job.

Something that happens especially in offices is the brain gets 'fogged' up in boredom and it feels it off everybody else and grows.

Boredom can actually poison you, that is why I say get that sport / physical exercise in and keep the negatives at bay.

On agency work i got pulled to do a job putting brocures and leaflets into envelopes. - very boring.
so i spread it out across teh desk and made it so i had to stretch across and keep moving to get each done had about 5 parts per envelope.

There was me at end of the day still full of energy and happy and raring to go out afterwards and the other agency who looked - like they had spent 8 hours being incredibly bored and every moment was a form of torture for them.
Just looking at them was kinda painful.

Money is required for hobbies and living sir

Originally posted by 🔥Astral Rage🔥:

Toxic environment, lack of learning and growth has pushed me to feeling this way.

I do not have any other job offers and interview lined up. Have been almost 1.5 yrs with the same company and every day,week feels like years.

My time is getting wasted. People around me are lame and stuck with paying loans, family.

This job has made me dumb and I feel the need to polish my skillset

if reasonable possible leave that place

well, don't quit until you have another one lined up, or your savings are really deep

Originally posted by DutyCallsBackNextYear:

Something that happens especially in offices is the brain gets 'fogged' up in boredom and it feels it off everybody else and grows.

Boredom can actually poison you, that is why I say get that sport / physical exercise in and keep the negatives at bay.

It might be worthwhile to assume that time being wasted equates to boredom. Lack of learning and growth, feeling "dumb" and self driven areas of improvement being needing to work on a skillset, definitely all point to boredom.

Originally posted by 🔥Astral Rage🔥:

My time is getting wasted.

How is it being "wasted"? You're 1.5 years into a job. I do recall similar, albeit milder, feelings of my talents being similarly wasted during the first year or so into a job, but largely I was acquainting myself with the workflows of the business in particular.

Is it simply boredom? Are you lacking pay to invest in your skills outside of the job?

If you're bored, then you can likely dedicate mental energies outside of work. Taking on projects or tasks. Unless you're desk bound a work, and don't want to be particularly desk bound after work?

There is reportedly a widespread recession at the moment. Having a job should be considered good fortune, but a recession may reduce the workload below the demand that the capacity is designed for.

I wouldn't quit your job, because it will probably be hard to find another. I would recommend working on something as a fallback should your job disappear during a recession or depression.

Originally posted by DutyCallsBackNextYear:

Build up your skillset - without losing your job.

The question is, what skillset? Plan to go into the trades?

Just do it.

Originally posted by CJM:

Originally posted by DutyCallsBackNextYear:

Build up your skillset - without losing your job.

The question is, what skillset? Plan to go into the trades?

The older you get, the less valuable your newly developed skills are.

Its acceptable for a 19yo to be slow and messy with their job. But a 30yo who operates at that level is going to be frowned upon. Its why nobody hires 60 year olds who just finished college or university. They're green, and don't have time to develop themselves into something competent.

But then trades is also a huge culture shock for most people. Because you can't freeload off your team, or make excuses, or spread your workload over a fiscal quarter. You are expected to perform every single day with tangible results - or you're fired. Slowest person on the crew is always up for replacement. Its why people from the military usually transition better to the trades, because they understand that they need to pull their own weight.

Originally posted by Beltneck:

Originally posted by CJM:

The question is, what skillset? Plan to go into the trades?

The older you get, the less valuable your newly developed skills are.

Outside of niche programmer skills, like FORTRAN, and COBAL, the information technology fields are even worse.

Originally posted by Beltneck:

But then trades is also a huge culture shock for most people. Because you can't freeload off your team, or make excuses, or spread your workload over a fiscal quarter. You are expected to perform every single day with tangible results - or you're fired. Slowest person on the crew is always up for replacement. Its why people from the military usually transition better to the trades, because they understand that they need to pull their own weight.

I wasn't freeloading. I was training new recruit, and they fired the new recruit and put in the position (a promotion, $10 hour raise).

This toxic Trumpian "slowest person on the crew is always up for replacement" mindset let to anxiety, and I couldn't remain with the company.

It is one thing to be expected to pull my own weight. It is an entirely different matter to meet unreasonable expectations, working for a member of the Executive staff infamous for excessive turnover when a President made infamous for "The Apprentice" Hunger Games mentality is in office.

In the military, you've got to know that your team, your "brothers in arms" have your back. There is loyalty.

In a "slowest person is always up for replacement" mindset, there is no loyalty, there is no military mindset. It isn't tough, it is toxic. Military members are more respected, and less likely to be outright fired. Military members are more likely to be held as a standard, rather than have expectation raised to unreasonable levels on them. If no military member is present to set the standard, and the management staff be otherwise incompetent, then the environment may spiral.

I was growing. My manager was as well, until he hit a wall. My manager changed jobs, along with the entire department. I was left behind, a relic of a previous team. I wound up with a lot more work, taking up slack the previous team carried that the new incoming team couldn't. Then came the promotion, and then the crash.